Algae Scrubber Basics

I have been running my scrubber lights 24/7 for about a year now - that started when I accidentally flipped the timer switch to the "ON" position instead of the "TIMER" position, and in 5 days I had as much growth as I did in ~8 days when I was running 12-16 hrs/day.

Since then I've left it there, first as an experiment but after that, just because it works for me.

I believe RHF chimed in on this thread at some point, might have been elsewhere, but there is no rule or law that says algae needs a dark time. In fact that has been pretty much disproven, anecdotally if anything (and most things in this hobbyare proven/disproven anecdotally)

For 24/7 lighting though, you have to have enough tank load to support that. Meaning, either you are running a small scrubber on a larger tank than you normally would or you are running it in a tank that is more heavily fed = more nutrients. Also the light intensity has a factor.

Also a factor is what kind of growth you are getting. You can't force a system to work on 24/7 lighting, it's actually the other way around. If you screen is growing great, increase lighting (photperiod first, then intensity if adjustable). Work your way up in hours and watch for growth reversion. If you can adjust intensity then don't adjust that at the same time you adjust hours/day.

If you can adjust intensity then once you have a full screen of growth you can pretty much go 24/7 and then watch the growth and adjust intensity until you maximize growth.

The key is allowing enough time at a set level/time to make sure that it's working correctly and the growth is not reverting.

Also never over-clean when running long hours. You want to remove 90% of the growth but leave a good amount on the screen, especially if your holes are not well filled in yet.
 
I run 24/7 and as long as I feed enough and the flow is high enough, I'm good.

Recently, my flow dropped because my pump got partially clogged. The bacteria took over and my screen turned to brown jelly.

Flow + nutrients = fuel
Light intensity + duration = burn rate

As long as fuel = burn rate, you'll have a healthy ATS

that's my simple view anyway.
 
quiet down an upflow ATS?

Is the sound from inside the box, or from the bubbles hitting the surface?

please tell me what you think

All dark stuff needs to be scraped/brushed of so you see white again, and you could probably do 24 hours of light because the light is not strong enough for those higher nutrients. Also, painting the interior white will greatly increase the light.
 
good way to explain it, thanks a lot
I will run it 24/7 and increase a little the intensity of the leds and see what happens in next harvest

Thanks again
 
Is the sound from inside the box, or from the bubbles hitting the surface?




from bubbles hitting the water. or both if there are ways. reason why I ask this is...

I am thinking of making a smaller version for my 20L macro. I over feed trying to get a canary blenny to eat. no CUC and even with 12 verities of macro I still got GHA :( boo i know.

so I am thinking about another up flow or Aqua clear 50 mod ATS ( not sure how i will do that tho. ) if there is a way to quite them down I think I would give it a try.

oh SM on a side note do you think the fusion quite power 700 can push air 15t o 18'? I might just link both up to the same LED driver and air pump then it will be a cheap build.

does anyone see a problem running led wires under a base board heater to the other side of the room to my 20L?
 
also wondering if anyone has made a ATS from a aquaclear 50. with out cutting the back out.
If you are thinking of using an Aquaclear 50, I very much doubt that the pump qill produce anywhere near enough flow. I have a 70 that I no longer use, but I don't think the flow was anywhere close to 35 GPh per inch.
 
Humm good point. I could always do an up flow in there. The trick is waterproofing the leds.

i know of ppl dbl coating with epoxy just not 100% sure on that...

My idea was to get it out of the tank and somehow reduce the bubble noise.

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Well if it's bubbles coming up to the surface, you just need to enclose that area by extending the box to above the surface, with a little air outlet hole. The thicker the material, the quieter it will be.
 
^ move the top of the ATS above water level? that makes it worse...

or are you thinking of A air hose?
it not to bad on my 90 but really dont want to add another. 2 bubblers might be a lil to much.
 
ok i'll get you some tomorrow.

do you guys think leds driven @ 350 ma would work for a small scrubber for a 20L? .5 cube a day single side screen? I was thinking 2 leds driven @700 so if I went 4 at 350 ma might to the trick? I just have that driver doing nothing.
I know that is kinda week but should work?

also open to driver and airpump suggestions...
 
gotta build a new setup... anyone have input on best ready made led lamp/fixture for waterfall scrubbers? lots out there to choose from may as well ask if there is a certain one people are having success with. Thanks

6 x 10 screen size if that helps
 
Here's my harvest from 7/24
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And from today

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after cleaning & rinsing, ready for the next cycle

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Ok. After doing a lot of reading I think I might have made my ATS too big. It is about 9x9. Light on both sides. I have a 75 gallon and feed about 1-1.5 cube equivalents a day. Will it still work? My flow is about 30 gph, which I see should be up to 35gph. It is a bout 2 weeks old and I think i am getting good starter growth. Nothing green yet tho.
 
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