Algae Scrubber Basics

If you think about it, there are sections deep within your LR that get no circulation. I would not worry about it. But sand should work.

I argree, its probably not a big deal. But I think things like deep sand beds, they have to circulation, and you shouldent disturb them. I can just invision all the crud that comes down my overflow settling in the bottom of that tube, sitting there for months, and one day accidently knocking over the thing or some fluke with the pump suddenly putting all that back into the water stream. Maybe I'm just overthinking it. But it cost a dollar for the plugs to not have to think about it.

My biggest concern is how much potiential is there of the slot getting plugged enough, or restricting enough flow that the overflow cant keep up? I'm thinking maybe put my return pump in like a tupperware in the sump, so that if the water gets to low, the pump runs dry before the tank overflows. Not good on the pump. but better on the wood floors!
 
Day 11. Screen is on its second cleaning, and is starting to develop lots of small green patches!
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Just realized that pic is a bit misleading because my camera freeked out under the 2700k light. All the darker spots are hair algae beginning the fill in. The light areas don't have hair algae, but are taking on a green tinge.
 
Gotta question!!!! I had a scrubber running and getting some growth. I had to take it down when i had problems with my plumbing and have decided to rethink my design and come up with a better idea. I have my idea now and was curious if i could use that algae scrubber screen to start? It is dried up and brown now. I was curious if this would casue a promblem or not. The screen has been put in my garage for about 6 or 7 weeks now.
Thanks
 
IMO you could, but the breakdown of the dead algae may present more of a problem than the cost of a new one. This also assumes no contaminant have gotten on it while in the garage.

Maybe rough it up again to try and get some of the dead algae off?
 
Gotta question!!!! I had a scrubber running and getting some growth. I had to take it down when i had problems with my plumbing and have decided to rethink my design and come up with a better idea. I have my idea now and was curious if i could use that algae scrubber screen to start? It is dried up and brown now. I was curious if this would casue a promblem or not. The screen has been put in my garage for about 6 or 7 weeks now.
Thanks

Should be fine, give it a very good scrub in fresh water first.

As fishman said, so long as it didn't get contaminated by anything.
 
My biggest concern is how much potiential is there of the slot getting plugged enough, or restricting enough flow that the overflow cant keep up? I'm thinking maybe put my return pump in like a tupperware in the sump, so that if the water gets to low, the pump runs dry before the tank overflows. Not good on the pump. but better on the wood floors!

This is just my opinion, but, I would never run a scrubber off the drain line of a single drain system. I think you are asking for a flood. I am setting my tank up with the 3 drain BeanAnimal overflow system and plan to use the main siphon drain on my algae scrubber. In this case, I have two more drains to catch any overflow from clogging in the scrubber slot. Even if the scrubber drain became completely blocked, the other two drains would handle the flow without incident. In your case, there is no backup. I think you would be safer using a dedicated pump in your sump to run the scrubber unless you can add a backup drain from the tank.
 
I understand your concern, however anyone running a single-drain system is in the same boat, scrubber or not. The way I recommend that you design a scrubber, the slot itself would never be able to totally clog, because the screen does not go up to the top of the inside of the slot pipe, only maybe 1/8 to 1/4". So anything large enough to make it through the pipe (if you didn't have an intake strainer) would just get pushed by water pressure to the end of the pipe. The screen itself can not get clogged by algae growth. I know this is a hard concept to accept, but the fact is that the algae can only grow into the slot until the water pressure created by it's growth prevents it from growing further into the slot.

That being said, the best way to run a scrubber is from an independent pump, or a Herbie or Bean system.
 
I know it can happen even without an algae scrubber. I had a turbo snail get in the overflow pipe once. Lucky when i built the sump, the pump compartment divider is only 1.5 inches below the water line. with the tank water about 3/4 below the top, the pump runs dry before the tank floods. But for the algae scrubber i have to move the pump to the other side and get rid of the compartment. But i have a spair power head and i got pices to plumb it if i want. Ill have to dial it back to get the right flow though.
 
ATS with LED
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Are those 1W LEDs? Is that a fixture you made or bought? It looks like it would have to be 1W.

You need to back the light timing down to 18 on, 6 off, or something around there. Depending on the light intensity, you may need less even. Algae needs a dark portion of the 24 hour cycle.

Nice build!
 
I've noticed some extremely rapid growth in the past 2 days. It was beginning to clog the slot so I pulled it out, scraped the algae off with a credit card (it wouldn't just spray off this time) and made some adjustments so the slot won't clog so easily. I'm actually pretty impressed. I scraped off more algae than I would have gotten in skimmate.
 
Hi guys,

Looks like my scrubber might be a little too good on the nitrate reduction front. I've had an ich outbreak and moved the fish to QT until I can cure them. The DT is running fallow for at least 8 weeks. Nitrate levels had been running steady at 10ppm. Nitrate has since gone to 0 (took about 2 weeks) and my PO4 is starting to shoot up. Last week it tested at 0.015ppm (Hanna phosphorus meter) and tonight it's up to 0.064ppm. Scrubber growth looks good. I'm onto the spongy light green with GHA mixed in. Been running ATS for about a month. Tank is just shy of 2 months past cycle.

Any recommendations on what I should do, if anything, until I get the fish back in there? Coral look quite happy, although I have all shenanigan-tolerant things at the moment (fungia, acans, leather, ric's, hammer, duncan, etc.). I drop in at least half a cube a day of whatever I give to the QT, plus target feeding the big mouths with shrimp and scallops.

Other levels are OK (alk is about 8.5, ca is 420, mg is 1350, ammonia/nitrite at 0).

On a side note; does anyone else make use of the Hanna phosphorus meters? That powder is a b*tch to deal with. I'm concerned about accuracy. Also, they sure make you rush to get it in there and shake it up before the meter resets (unless I'm doing something wrong here - timing is tight tho!!).
 
If it's like the Phosphate meter, what I do is cut the packet open and dump onto a sheet of paper with a crease in it, then I put the vial in the meter to calibrate it, and when it's ready I take the vial out, dump the powder in, and start a timer and shake for 2 minutes and put it back in, and I never have a time out problem.

You may have to start dosing N. I got some at aquariumfertilizer.com and I'm going to try that, I have a P floor of about 0.09-0.16, can't break through it (and N=0)
 
What about running GFO on the side (using a lower flow pump)? As long as N stays 0 and if that can get P to 0... that works better than dosing N, no?

Those P levels are quite high for SPS, are they not?
 
I got my scrubber going this weekend. It is looking good no growth yet but flow and spray and everything else is much better than my last setup. It looks very good. I used hose quick disconnects and 1/2 tubing to achieve easier and quicker cleaning of the screen. Very happy with the setup. I will update with pictures.
I have some exnia and star polyps and other phosphate and nitrate eating hogs. Are they going to be ok with a ATS. Not a big deal if they don't grow becasue they have been growing super fast. I would be happy to maintain there size at this point but was curious to the fact of 0 nitrates and phostphates affecting them altogether and possibly killing them?
 
I got my scrubber going this weekend. It is looking good no growth yet but flow and spray and everything else is much better than my last setup. It looks very good. I used hose quick disconnects and 1/2 tubing to achieve easier and quicker cleaning of the screen. Very happy with the setup. I will update with pictures.
I have some exnia and star polyps and other phosphate and nitrate eating hogs. Are they going to be ok with a ATS. Not a big deal if they don't grow becasue they have been growing super fast. I would be happy to maintain there size at this point but was curious to the fact of 0 nitrates and phostphates affecting them altogether and possibly killing them?

I have tried to keep xenia two times in my tank, both types slowly melted away. However I have two different types of green star polyps that are growing just fine.

Xenia is the only coral known to be incompatible with algae scrubbers. I have witnessed this first hand. That being said, I have read of other people who have large colonies and seem fine with a scrubber...
 
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