An addicted reefer chic's 40B franken tank w/ 2 30g display macro tanks...

[MeanGreenEyes]

yeah i thought they were a good thing to have at first but i think the bother some of my corals when they start growing close to them. ill try and get a good pic of the brown dots

I've never noticed them affecting anything in my system. In regards to the brown dots...get some good pics and post them in the "ID" forum so someone can answer those questions for you.

im jelly. wish i had that setup.

Do it! Anything is possible with a dollar and a dream! Set your mind to it and go for it. Chingchai's amazing build was the major inspiration for me...my build just doesn't have the space or budget his had. I don't have all the top of the line equipment, hottest rimless on the market, etc., but I did throw my own spin on it. Plus, I find it senseless to go rimless and have to put a mesh top over it. When I can easily hide that mesh top inside the rim of my tank for a lot less $$. I promised my 10yr old son a replacement firefish in this system after his carpet surfed...so when it's time...mesh top is a must for me. It is still very much a disaster/work in progress. During hurricane Sandy a fellow lady reefer/friend/amazing person lost everything in her 155g...so I have frags all over my system growing out to donate to her system. My sand bed and frag racks are littered given my still very limited space...she doesn't know it yet and doesn't follow this thread. Can't wait to surprise her. Wanted to give them time to heal/encrust a little before I send them her way. I want her to think I forgot about my promise, b/c I'm just evil like that. lmao During the night before/day of our recent frag swap...my ATO malfunctioned so I have p*ssed off coral from that still and some not happy with the switch in lighting from T5 to LED. As soon as I move her stuff out of my tanks, everything is healed/happy and acclimated to new lighting I will have a real photographer buddy come take pics of my system. I always set out to do things that I'm told are impossible, because I love challenge...it's part of the thrill of this hobby for me...I eat challenge for dinner. Scrimp, save and collect items to build your system out. That's what I've done and am still doing. I don't mind it being a long term work in progress b/c it gives me plenty to do in the foreseeable future...so I'll never grow bored at this rate. Don't forget d.i.y. if the proper amount of research is done...d.i.y. can be a life/$$ saver...if done correctly. I'm the queen of d.i.y. I'm saving now for a better controller, dosing system and to build my dream livestock collection. The only one that can/will ever make your dreams come true is YOU. A few local reefer buddies thought/still think I'm nuts for doing things the way I have and not just purchasing a huge tank. I'm ok with that...I love being unique. What kind of system are you running now?

 

[joeogio]

I've never noticed them affecting anything in my system. In regards to the brown dots...get some good pics and post them in the "ID" forum so someone can answer those questions for you.
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thanks i will do that i might have to take one of the snails out that has them so i can get a close up pic

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

thanks i will do that i might have to take one of the snails out that has them so i can get a close up pic

np

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

Going to be trying this in the continuous feeder...ran into a very interesting read on it...

Here: http://reefcentral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=971190

And after the split here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074951

"Pappone" Recipe Italian Coral Food (Updated 12/20/2006)

Materials:
5 Oysters
5 Mussels
5 Clams
5 Shrimp (NOT cocktail shrimp, the big scampi type w/o the head and the shell)
1 Tablespoon of Sugar
200 mL of RO/DI water
10 g of Red Algae (Palmaria palmata; Bisck uses Julian Sprung's brand)
and/or 10 g of Spirulina, 10 g of Nori (spirulina is what Bisck prefers)

Methods: Make SURE that all ingredients are the freshest possible and DO NOT use frozen foods (unless it is impossible for you). Make sure everything "live" is rinsed and cleaned before putting it into the blender. Put all the ingredients into the blender and blend for 5 min, wait 2 min for it to cool, 5 more min blending, 2 min of waiting again, then finally another 5 min of blending (the pausing is so that the solution doesn't get too hot and "cook" from the heat of the blender/blades). Pour into cube forms (approx 10 mL each). Then freeze it allâ€"you want to minimize how long everything is at room temperature.

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

Alright...said I wasn't going to share but I was just looking through a few pics I tried to take last night right before lights out with my cell phone...so everything is really blue and pics are epically sh*tty as usual...but this is all I can share until I get this system where I want it and have a real photographer take pics. Sick with the flu...so I don't feel like working on the system right now.

W/ auto flash

These do NOT show this pearlberry frag justice...I tried like hell to capture it and this is the best I could do. The little nub on the right branch is new growth since the swap...

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

purple tabling acro...again...pay no attention to the color...lights wound down again at this point...had to use flash...

and for laughs my what the eff moment of the week:

 

[Paul B]

Omg...drool...these is on my NPS wishlist once I'm ready...consider it documented. lol

I saw one of these today in a store opposite where Fortunoffs was in Westbury, almost bought it but it is not a good option in my opinion. Pink and white gorgonians don't generally do well as they must be fed, in the sea they grow perpendicular to the flow and get constant food, food that could not be supplied in a closed system which is the reason you don't see old ones in people's tank. That is only my opinion.
I am impressed with your passion for the hobby and DIY skills. You probably know that I built all of my equipment and rocks so I would not be the one to ask about a certain manufactured piece of equipment.
I like the continous feeder idea and also have been thinking about one for years but can't get it to the point where I want to build yet. I do have a continous baby brine shrimp feeder that I use every day but not a frozen food one.
Inventing devices to help on a reef tank is also a passion of mine and I have two aquarium related patents.
Keep up the passion, I will be following this thread. I didn't read it all but I will.
Nice livestock you have there.

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

I saw one of these today in a store opposite where Fortunoffs was in Westbury, almost bought it but it is not a good option in my opinion. Pink and white gorgonians don't generally do well as they must be fed, in the sea they grow perpendicular to the flow and get constant food, food that could not be supplied in a closed system which is the reason you don't see old ones in people's tank. That is only my opinion.
I am impressed with your passion for the hobby and DIY skills. You probably know that I built all of my equipment and rocks so I would not be the one to ask about a certain manufactured piece of equipment.
I like the continous feeder idea and also have been thinking about one for years but can't get it to the point where I want to build yet. I do have a continous baby brine shrimp feeder that I use every day but not a frozen food one.
Inventing devices to help on a reef tank is also a passion of mine and I have two aquarium related patents.
Keep up the passion, I will be following this thread. I didn't read it all but I will.
Nice livestock you have there.

Then if you have the will and the room, the two most important things for a reef tank is live blackworms and new born brine shrimp. No problem.

I want to say that I'm truly honored to have your input. I will avoid the gorg since you feel it is truly not sustainable long term. There are plenty of other beautiful NPS options out there that will survive with my continuous feeder hooked up...so not a problem.

Thank you for the compliments. With an Italian father, grandfather and brothers who were all about fixing everything...my hands were in on all of that from a young age so I'm eternally grateful for those experiences. They taught me a lot and showed me that anything can be accomplished if approached/done properly. Since, I haven't found a man that can do what I do...I do it myself! I have zero tolerance for half@$$ work, I'm impatient and being that men like to procrastinate...it's just another motivation to do things myself. So, typical woman with an atypical hobby. lol My green thumb/aquatic interests came from a combination of growing up on the water and the fact that my Dad grew his own grapes, made his own wine, etc. When I was in pre-k we had an experiment in class and hatched some tadpoles. I was the lucky one to bring a jar full home, only to have my stupid mother run screaming to the bathroom to flush them. I've been addicted to everything aquatic since, but really dove in around 15.

I poured over every ounce of your thread in one sitting when I first came across it because I was very intrigued with the idea of a 40 year old tank, so I'm fully aware of all of your d.i.y. Plus, you're a Vet...all my brother's served in the Corps. and we lost one in Nam way before I was born...so you are A#1 in my book. Long story, my Dad had me late in life. So, thank you for your service...there are those of us in the younger generation that actually DO appreciate the sacrifices.

Hatching brine shrimp isn't a problem, have been doing it for years for the fw tanks. Do you gutload your brine shrimp? Very interested in the live blackworms, any good info on culturing them at home? I've also been feeding Nutramar Ova for a while now and the tank goes nuts over it.

Sorry for writing a book, I'm very dedicated in the long term success of my system/plans.

Also will be feeding this using the continuous feeder...with a few of my own spins on it...such as sodium alginate to keep the food suspended:

Going to be trying this in the continuous feeder...ran into a very interesting read on it...

Here: http://reefcentral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=971190

And after the split here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074951

"Pappone" Recipe Italian Coral Food (Updated 12/20/2006)

Materials:
5 Oysters
5 Mussels
5 Clams
5 Shrimp (NOT cocktail shrimp, the big scampi type w/o the head and the shell)
1 Tablespoon of Sugar
200 mL of RO/DI water
10 g of Red Algae (Palmaria palmata; Bisck uses Julian Sprung's brand)
and/or 10 g of Spirulina, 10 g of Nori (spirulina is what Bisck prefers)

Methods: Make SURE that all ingredients are the freshest possible and DO NOT use frozen foods (unless it is impossible for you). Make sure everything "live" is rinsed and cleaned before putting it into the blender. Put all the ingredients into the blender and blend for 5 min, wait 2 min for it to cool, 5 more min blending, 2 min of waiting again, then finally another 5 min of blending (the pausing is so that the solution doesn't get too hot and "cook" from the heat of the blender/blades). Pour into cube forms (approx 10 mL each). Then freeze it allâ€"you want to minimize how long everything is at room temperature.

 

[Paul B]

I will avoid the gorg since you feel it is truly not sustainable long term.

I feel that gorgonian is not sustainable, but not all of them. In general anything white will not do well because it has no symbiotic algae and must be fed continous, 24/7 not just sporatically, as you know they don't really have a stomach so instead of storing food like us and fish can do, they need it all the time. Any of the brown gorgs do well but of course not as nice looking.

With an Italian father, grandfather and brothers who were all about fixing everything

We have something in common, although my Dad died when I was 10. All my Grandparents came from a small fishing village on the south side of Sicily. I visited there a couple of years ago and I also come from a family of DIYers.
I myself have never paid anyone for anything, that includes my boat, car, tank or house and I practically built the house. Removing the engine from my car to re-build it is no problem and I have done it quite a few times. (I was a GM mechanic) Buying things don't impress me, anyone can do that, but if you can design and build it, that is what impresses me. I can buy what I need but it is my hobby and making all the equipment is part of my hobby.
Your enthusiasm for building things surprises me as I very rarely met a girl with those skills. It also impresses me because even most guys today don't know how to do anything, even changing a tire would scare many young guys. One of my Daughter's boyfriends (before she got married) told me that I spoil it for the guys that go out with her, because I do everything myself, and none of them know how to do squat. I didn't know what to say to that, But I was thinking, go and learn how to do something and stop being a girly man.

I have zero tolerance for half@$$ work, I'm impatient and being that men like to procrastinate

I do also and I don't procrastinate. Drives me crazy. Before huricane Sandy they reported that it will be the worst storm in NY history so I took that seriously and got my generator ready and bought plenty of gas. I had no power for 4 days, no problem.
I don't know how many people told me after the ice storm last year that they were buying a generator, and after Sandy they are still saying the same thing. So far, no one has a generator and they won't after the next storm either.
Electric rates went up, I installed solar panels on my roof. heating oil went up, I installed a natural gas boiler that saves me $4,000.00 a year in fuel. Procrastinators spend a whole lot more for everything because they don't get off their you know what to better their lives.
I wanted to learn about fish, I got certified for SCUBA

my Dad grew his own grapes, made his own wine,

He sounds like me, I don't grow them but I buy them and crush them for wine.

So, thank you for your service...there are those of us in the younger generation that actually DO appreciate the sacrifices.

Thank you for that, hearing that from someone your age is a very big deal to me. Most younger people don't have a clue about war.

Do you gutload your brine shrimp

No, I feel that is a waste of time, their gut is tiny and they use the energy from the food as soon as they injest it. They are 100% more nutritious if you feed them to your fish with in a couple of hours after they hatch. They are born with a big yoke sack which is almost all oil. That oil is the most important thing in a fishes diet. The longer they live, the less value they are for the fish. Ideally they should be fed to your tank as soon as they are born. You can easily make a feeder that will do that automatically.

Very interested in the live blackworms, any good info on culturing them at home?

I have not been able to culture them but they do reproduce, just not fast enough for my needs as I use them every day. I built a worm keeper and I only have to buy a portion a week for like a buck. With the blackworm keeper they live and stay healthy unlike putting them in a refrigerator like most people do.

I've also been feeding Nutramar Ova for a while now and the tank goes nuts over it.

I never heard of it but that doesn't mean anything.

I poured over every ounce of your thread in one sitting

I think it spans about 8 years or so. Thats a lot of reading and a lot of the stuff I wrote had nothing to do with fish as far as I remember.

Worm keeper

Shrimp hatchery and egg seperator

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

I feel that gorgonian is not sustainable, but not all of them. In general anything white will not do well because it has no symbiotic algae and must be fed continous, 24/7 not just sporatically, as you know they don't really have a stomach so instead of storing food like us and fish can do, they need it all the time. Any of the brown gorgs do well but of course not as nice looking.


We have something in common, although my Dad died when I was 10. All my Grandparents came from a small fishing village on the south side of Sicily. I visited there a couple of years ago and I also come from a family of DIYers.
I myself have never paid anyone for anything, that includes my boat, car, tank or house and I practically built the house. Removing the engine from my car to re-build it is no problem and I have done it quite a few times. (I was a GM mechanic) Buying things don't impress me, anyone can do that, but if you can design and build it, that is what impresses me. I can buy what I need but it is my hobby and making all the equipment is part of my hobby.
Your enthusiasm for building things surprises me as I very rarely met a girl with those skills. It also impresses me because even most guys today don't know how to do anything, even changing a tire would scare many young guys. One of my Daughter's boyfriends (before she got married) told me that I spoil it for the guys that go out with her, because I do everything myself, and none of them know how to do squat. I didn't know what to say to that, But I was thinking, go and learn how to do something and stop being a girly man.


I do also and I don't procrastinate. Drives me crazy. Before huricane Sandy they reported that it will be the worst storm in NY history so I took that seriously and got my generator ready and bought plenty of gas. I had no power for 4 days, no problem.
I don't know how many people told me after the ice storm last year that they were buying a generator, and after Sandy they are still saying the same thing. So far, no one has a generator and they won't after the next storm either.
Electric rates went up, I installed solar panels on my roof. heating oil went up, I installed a natural gas boiler that saves me $4,000.00 a year in fuel. Procrastinators spend a whole lot more for everything because they don't get off their you know what to better their lives.
I wanted to learn about fish, I got certified for SCUBA

He sounds like me, I don't grow them but I buy them and crush them for wine.


Thank you for that, hearing that from someone your age is a very big deal to me. Most younger people don't have a clue about war.


No, I feel that is a waste of time, their gut is tiny and they use the energy from the food as soon as they injest it. They are 100% more nutritious if you feed them to your fish with in a couple of hours after they hatch. They are born with a big yoke sack which is almost all oil. That oil is the most important thing in a fishes diet. The longer they live, the less value they are for the fish. Ideally they should be fed to your tank as soon as they are born. You can easily make a feeder that will do that automatically.

I have not been able to culture them but they do reproduce, just not fast enough for my needs as I use them every day. I built a worm keeper and I only have to buy a portion a week for like a buck. With the blackworm keeper they live and stay healthy unlike putting them in a refrigerator like most people do.


I never heard of it but that doesn't mean anything.


I think it spans about 8 years or so. Thats a lot of reading and a lot of the stuff I wrote had nothing to do with fish as far as I remember.

Worm keeper

Shrimp hatchery and egg seperator

Thanks for the info.

My Dad passed a couple years ago, which tore my heart out and continues to everyday, especially holidays, birthdays, and important milestones in my kid's lives. He was my entire world. My Dad's side's from L'Aquila and my mother's side is Sicilian...don't know exactly where, b/c I lost my Grandpa too. I've thought about putting myself through automotive school many times just to be able to fix everything on my cars myself. When I get more of course. It's just too much of a headache to have them in the city and everything I need is within blocks of me. My Grandpa on my mother's side was a big truck mechanic...I forget what company. He was so obsessed with mechanics he built himself a full sized garage after retirement. So I picked up the basics from him. I was his right hand whenever I'd get to go visit him in. I can't tell you how many heart attacks he gave my mother because he taught me how to drive the truck, riding lawn mowers and bulldozer by myself when I was 8/9...full throttle. She'd yell at him like a maniac using not so nice words as you can imagine and he'd put her in her place and laughed in her face...GO GRANDPA! Total hero to a rebellious young kid. Lol I'm the biggest tomboy there is...I just love hair, makeup, mani/pedi's, too. The only thing I'm not well versed in is woodworking, which would be freakin' awesome to learn especially being in this hobby.

It's hilarious whenever I get the looks from people thinking I'm scared to chip a nail. Like the day I had my wash machine flipped on it's side on the kitchen table to replace the drain motor...the boyfriend's face was EPIC! Or the ex/neighbors/friend's saw me throw my cars on the ramps to change the oil or under the hood to do basic maintenance. I've done some roofing repair, hung drywall, done my own painting, plumbing, some electrical. You name it. Expert by no means, but get the job done properly. Have had too many people try to take me for the fool as a woman when it comes to auto repair, etc. So I don't take no sh*t. I get a big kick out of it...I like accomplishing things on my own. One day when I do move out of the city and buy/build my own home I will definitely be doing as much work as possible to get things done right. I definitely want to make my house as "green" as possible. I've been very inspired by a few shows focused on green building. I want a yard so that I can build an outdoor kitchen with a real brick oven for breads/pizza. Cooking is my other love/passion besides reefing.

You sound like someone my Dad could have sat and talked for hours with. Everyone adored him.

You're welcome! My Dad, Grandpa, brother's and 2 brother-in-laws are why I understand about war. My Dad served in Italy, my Grandpa in the Army in WWII, and my brother's between Nam and the Gulf war and my brother-in-law's during the Iraq war. So I literally grew up around the stories. Truly heartbreaking. My younger brother-in-law isn't the same after Iraq and we lost the other in a car accident while on duty AFTER he returned home.

Some people will NEVER learn, and then will turn to you to save the day. There was only so much to do to be able to prepare for the storm since I couldn't run a generator. Air pump, water change the night before, extra RO made and sw mixed...fingers crossed. I was so LUCKY that I never lost power. It flickered several times during the storm, but never went out.

After the storm I started scrambling to try to help hold livestock for people without power, but with the gas shortages, etc. I wasn't even able to help anyone. Which really sucked, b/c we have so many locals who's tanks were wiped out. I have my sandbed and frag racks littered with frags that I cut for Awi to help her rebuild. A few mini colonies from things that I could spare more of. Letting them heal/encrust a little before I send them her way.

Awesome D.I.Y. as usual. I'll look further into my own contraptions for brine and blackworms.

It looks like I have some additional threads I need to find on your system, b/c the only one that I was aware of was the 40th birthday thread. I had only converted to salt in late 2010...I think. So the fact that you had a tank that long intrigued me to the point that I sat and read the whole thing one night. So please, let me know links to the "real" tank thread. lol

 

[Paul B]

GreenEyes, you are a very special person, sorry about your Dad.
I didn't know there was someone else in the world that takes everything apart like I do.
This is a thread about the first 35 years of the tank but it is years long. I also wrote a few articles but they are scattered all over the place on the net.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20971890#post20971890

 

[trinidiver]

wow, i'm tagging this thread so i can find it later and go through it

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

GreenEyes, you are a very special person, sorry about your Dad.
I didn't know there was someone else in the world that takes everything apart like I do.
This is a thread about the first 35 years of the tank but it is years long. I also wrote a few articles but they are scattered all over the place on the net.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20971890#post20971890

Thanks Paul!

Lol...someone has to in order to make things work!

I look forward to reading it...better than a fresh cup of coffee and the paper...

wow, i'm tagging this thread so i can find it later and go through it

Thank you!


In tank related news...

Both 30g refugiums are fishless...the pod population is insane and I plan to seed them on a regular as well as culture some tisbe pods. The 30g's will most likely be stocked with some cool/different inverts. I also feed live phyto to the system in small amounts daily.

I made the pappone recipe last night...it looks insanely disgusting and I managed to gross out the babies and manchild with it which was freakin' awesome. lmao

I also blended...then chilled...then blended several times until I had the right consistency without "cooking" the mixture. Part of saving the good stuff is by not "cooking" the mixture by over heating it/over blending it at once because you want to keep it as cold as possible. All seafood was live...everything cost less than $10 for about 2L of food. My sodium alginate will arrive on Wednesday which will prevent the mixture from settling.

I finished the continuous feeder tonight and it is kick a$$! I'm so in love with it! Except I wish it was a Pepsi fridge...Coke SUCKS! Lol Keep in mind that the pappone recipe is more of a "coral food" than to feed the fish.

Tried to locate some live black worms to start trying to culture...which was unsuccessful. I found some info on culturing them that sounds as if it's been successful for quite a few. By the way, Paul, have you tried any of the methods of culturing the black worms that discus breeders have utilized? I do plan on making a setup similar to the ones you keep yours in since it's been successful for you, but you mentioned them not reproducing fast enough for your demand.

So, I will be culturing live:

*phyto
*blackworms
*brine
*rotifers (when it's time)
*tisbe pods

The d.i.y. continuous feeder is done! Expanding foam has to cure for 8 hours before I can fire it up. Food for the feeder made.

Drilled a 5/16 hole through the back cover and through the fridge wall. The back cover covers the expanding foam on the outside, so you can't see the ugly a$$ foam. So from the outside...fridge looks unchanged.

Inside:

Foam hidden by cover:

Line for the enternal pump ran through the back cover:

Upgraded my ATO reservoir to a 20g brute trash can...evaporation was a bish! I was having to replace 5g buckets every other day. However, since the sump sits on the floor under my DT, it was gravity feeding the sump through the aqualifter. Talked the issue over with a couple reefer buddies yesterday and I'll be running my ato line into my overflow so that the output is above the waterline in the brute. Problem solved.

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

Finally received the sodium alginate today. It's about $30 for 16oz., but it'll last forever...only needs about a 1/4tsp. per batch. I'll be working on the system this weekend, finish piecing everything together and do a test run on the continuous feeder. Trying to figure out the nicest looking method to place/mount the feeder above the tank.



The good stuff for the food mixture...

 

[Paul B]

have you tried any of the methods of culturing the black worms that discus breeders have utilized? I do plan on making a setup similar to the ones you keep yours in since it's been successful for you, but you mentioned them not reproducing fast enough for your demand.

I don't go to extroadinary measures to breed them as they are so available and cheap. I am sure in Williamsburg there are places that have them. If I needed more I would build a larger worm keeper and buy a lot of them. Now I buy about a portion or two a week for a buck or two. I have 3 sources near my house to get them. If I couldn't get them, I would have to devise a way to breed them in quantity because as I said, if I could not feed worms, I would not be in this hobby as they are what allows me to breed fish and keep them without quarantine or a hiospital tank.
I don't think they are very hard to breed you just need a place to do it and my workbench is very crowded now with projects, worms, baby brine shrimp, Majano Wands etc.
They do seem to reproduce in my keeper as I see a lot of young ones. I am sure I could grow them without much difficulty.

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

I don't go to extroadinary measures to breed them as they are so available and cheap. I am sure in Williamsburg there are places that have them. If I needed more I would build a larger worm keeper and buy a lot of them. Now I buy about a portion or two a week for a buck or two. I have 3 sources near my house to get them. If I couldn't get them, I would have to devise a way to breed them in quantity because as I said, if I could not feed worms, I would not be in this hobby as they are what allows me to breed fish and keep them without quarantine or a hiospital tank.
I don't think they are very hard to breed you just need a place to do it and my workbench is very crowded now with projects, worms, baby brine shrimp, Majano Wands etc.
They do seem to reproduce in my keeper as I see a lot of young ones. I am sure I could grow them without much difficulty.

Ok...gotcha! Have to do some more digging locally to find some. I thought Pacific would carry them, but they said that they don't carry any live foods b/c they're too much trouble. Nonsense.

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

Made some Pappone for the freezer with some scrap egg crate, a baking sheet coated w/ wax paper and some plastic clamps since the recipe makes way more than I can use for my system before it spoils in the fridge. Was able to make the cubes a little more uniform by tamping down the baking sheet and by using a small offset spatula.

 

[Paul B]

I am curious how that works out for you

 

[MeanGreenEyes]

I am curious how that works out for you

Well the original Italian method according to the thread was to make it with only the freshest of seafood...then freeze it in ice cube trays and feed half of a cube while the skimmer cup was removed for two hours, not turned off, because they left it running to continue to oxygenate the water.

I'm still feeding fresh and set aside a portion to go into a bottle in the mini fridge. Already set up the dosing amount on the doser, fridge is plugged in to get cold, just need to get a small shelf or something to put the feeder right above the back rim of the 40B.

Being that I'm feeding .4ml per hour with the line fed into the mp10 for better disbursement throughout the tank. I will be leaving my skimmer running and have the overflow from the skimmer running into a empty 1g distilled vinegar bottle...so I don't have to worry about the cup overflowing into the tank.

I was going to use a small wooden shoe rack to set this contraption on but it doesn't fit down behind the tank...so the food would've had to travel too great a distance to get to the tank which is not what I want.

Haven't decided what I'll do with the frozen portion, just didn't want to throw it in the garbage before I could use it...so for now...it's in the freezer. At least I have the peace of mind that it didn't get frozen/thawed several times.

They've been very successful with it with their SPS and LPS and I plan to utilize it for the NPS as well.

Of course, there's the topic of the HGH which I obviously can't use being that it's illegal here. The upside to that is that not all of them used it and still had success.

Hopefully it'll all work out with this system the way everything is planned out in my head...

 

[vin]

The catfish pic. is to funny,like your setup.