Another Green Wolf Eel Thread

David M

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Some things you just can't resist ;) Imagine this, you are walking through a lfs killing time waiting to get the owners attention. His eyes are glazed over with dollar signs as he grabs armfulls of gear off the shelves, he's got a live one. A total noob buying a complete 24G set up from the ground up. You just know it's gonna be a while :rolleyes:

From 20 feet away you spy a GWE in a small barren acrylic cube, no, wait, there are TWO in there ! The cube is barely 12 X 12. You move closer, one is maybe 18" and a beautiful bright green, the other about 14" and a dull brown that is almost black. That just has to a pair you think. Now, say you get all the way up to the tank and notice that the dark one (female") is completely wrapped around A 2-1/2" EGGBALL !!!!!!!!!!! You can see eyes and in fact you can see the developing larvae moving inside the eggs.

Now I need another fish like I need a hole in the head but how do you walk away from that :confused:
 
easy my friend you think of all the work you are gonna do to raise them, the lost time away from family and at the end the money chugger LFS owner is gonna offer you 30% less of the wild caugth wholesale price.
 
I walk away knowing I have no place to put them and they'd eat all my other fish...

Matt
 
What ??? You mean these aren't gonna be a huge seller? Gosh, I thought demand would be overwhelming, what with the nanno craze and all. :D

Hey, nobody ever said fish breeders had any common sense. :rolleyes:
 
when you find a pair of "pigmy" yellow tangs wrapped around a little egg ball:D

then we are talkin'
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8903354#post8903354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwp
I walk away knowing I have no place to put them and they'd eat all my other fish...

Matt

Did that just yesterday when visiting a wholesaler that had a pair :D

So Dave, did you get that pair? I'm not sure I could have resisted a pair complete with developing eggs.
 
OK naysayers, this is just TOO friggin' cool :D Worth every penny just for the experience :cool: They started hatching this morning, just a few at first. By noon there were maybe 10-12 that had broken free from the egg mass and were wriggling like mad trying to shed the "gel" of the egg. Then they vanished, I could not find them anywhere. This went on all day, I'd see a few isolated floating eggs with wriggling larvae trying to break free. Then nothing. By late afternoon I figured they had to be back in the eggball, and sure enough that is where they were. What happens is they take almost an hour to get free of the egg and shed the yolk/ gel, then they make haste to the nearset possible substrate. IOW these are NOT pelagic larve, in fact it's hard to call them "larvae" at all. They are definately bethnic, as soon as they can possibly wriggle free of the egg, they dive right back into the egg mass or whatever substrate is available. I lowered the kriesel so the free larvae could escape. They gatherd around the airline or held tight to the corners. I added some knotted up tubing and they immediately took up residence. At 2 hours after lights out there were hundreds of them but not swarming like c-fish, they are mostly gathered in the knotted tube, the airline to the kriesel and the corners of the tank. I had added some rotifers this morning, I have already seen them feeding on them even though I think they are certainly large enough to take nhbbs. I added bbs tonight and they took them. They are about 5/8 -3/4", about the same size and shape as a post met fridmani. Again, they are less than 12 hours old !!!!!

OK Ed, maybe I'll lose my arse on this but it's just SOOO friggin' cool it's worth it :D
 
Another check, 3 hrs after lights out. I removed the kriesel at 2 hrs, saving as many larvae as I could. NOW they are swarming, not localized at all. I have a ton of bbs and rotifers in there and a small light, they do seem to be feeding. There are still hundreds on unhatched eggs, without stimilation I doubt they will hatch but I have more than enough already for this first attempt. The morning will be interesting for sure.
 
Ths morning finds them all taking up shelter in the knotted tubing, the tank corners and the clumps of unhatched eggs. Very few swimming in the open. About half have swollen orange guts so I'm assuming they are eating the bbs. Rot density is less than half of what I started with so I guess they are eating those too. Today I will clean up the tank, get the unhatched eggs out and provide habitat for them. That tank has not been cleaned since the last clownfish batch were in there for 30 days, in my haste Thursday night I just dumped the eggs in there without really looking at it. There are hydroids everywhere, can't be good for bethnic larvae at all. I'll try to get as many out as I can.
 
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Just makin' a suggestion...

MP
 
You guys are more than welcome to drop by with yer fancy cameras and take all the pictures you want ! :D

They are still hatching btw, even though what's left of the eggball is nothing but clumps now, some bouyant and some just lying on the bottom. The already hatched fish agitate the eggs as they try to hide in them and this seems to stimulate more to hatch. Pretty cool.

I'll see what I can do in the photo department :rolleyes:
 
Not quite, they started yesterday around 10 am and there are just a few left now. The greatest number hatched right after dark last night.
 
I have the adults but there are issues :rolleyes: At the store they were in a small barren cube, obviuosly they got along just fine. The night I brought them home I had no tank for them so I put them in a barrel with just 10" water so they couldn't escape, they stayed like two peas in a pod under a sponge filter. However, as soon as I placed them into a tank with some rockwork forming a cave, the female (larger) took up residence in the rocks and ousted the male. She basically has him pinned in a corner and occasionally drops by just to beat the snot out of him. I'm not sure what to make of this. Seems that the cave caused an instant "territorial" reflex, if this goes on I may remove the rocks just to see what happens.

The larvae are interesting, at night they leave the substrate and swarm all over the tank, by morning every last one is secure in the various substrates I added. They definatley eat the nhbbs but also seem to be taking the rotifers as the density keeps dropping to nearly zero no matter how many I add.

F0or you photo dogs, I tried. I just don't have a camera good enough to get a clear picture of something this small. Sorry.
 
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