Any of these fish Copper Sensitive?

[Grimreaperz]

Posting for a friend who discovered his DT has ICH.

He will be moving all his fish to a QT and treating....we wanted to know if any of these fish are sensitive to copper before we started treating?

Foxface, bangaii cardinal, 6-line wrasse, blue chromis and lawnmower blenny

And if they are sensitive to copper would hyposalinity be the next best thing?

TIA

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[reefling]

Use the tank transfer method. It is much easier

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[Sk8r]

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2635979

 

[Grimreaperz]

Awesome thank you Sk8r unfortunately he doesn't have the equipment to do TTM and TTM only treats ich...if it turns out to be velvet as it is going around here TTM wouldn't do anything....so we are going to be doing Copper as that seems to be the only med that 100% kills both.....im not an advocate for chemicals but also not an advocate for dead fish either.....i have lost 2 infected fish doing TTM due to the stress it puts on them so I'm steering away from that this time.

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[Sk8r]

Anybody with 2 buckets, a bottle of bleach and a bottle of Prime can do TTM, just saying. But you're correct: diagnosis is critical and the wrong treatment is meaningless. Go out on the interwebs and google both diseases until you can get a visual match.

 

[billdogg]

If it's velvet and treatment hasn't already started it is probably already too late. Ich can easily be treated using TTM, and at least IMHO, is the very least stressful way to do so.

Copper is toxic to fish. Period. Too little and all it will do is increase the Ich parasite's resistance to it. Too much and you kill the fish. There is a very fine line between too little and too much, and because hobby grade test kits are just not all that accurate, it can be very difficult to keep the Cu+ level in the sweet spot

 

[sde1500]

Chloroquine phosphate is probably the better option.

 

[Grimreaperz]

Yeah I have head about CP as well....again he doesn't have enough equipment to TTM all 6 fish so it's out of the question....and keeping all 6 fish in that small of a container for that long just seems like disaster waiting to happen....

We will be going with Cuppramine or Chloroquine Phosphate as I have heard very good success stories with both of these....

Again it's kind of the lesser of 2 evils here....and I think a little bit of Copper or CP to aid in the removal of diseases to benefit their overall health for the long run isn't that bad....putting an infected fish who is already weak and not eating through TTM is jist as likely to kill it....

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[hotelbravo]

Buckets are $2 each at Walmart.. it's not hard or pricey to get the equipment for ttm. It would probably all be under $10. Less than your copper medicine

 

[Sk8r]

Many of us who've been at this more than 10 years don't use copper because it is so hard on the fish. It's better now that we have forums and some ideas which species do not tolerate it at all, but it remains a very rough treatment. It is calculated to poison the parasite before it takes out the fish, and precise dosing and absolutely steady water level are your best help in doing it right.