Anyone interested in fish that I collect.

DaveG99

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I have been going snorkeling just about every weekend. I found a spot down south where I can get a lot of fish very easily. I enjoy catching these fish. Its a challenge and I love the water. Most everything is pretty small. No large fish or inverts. Most the fish I catch are 1"-3". Below this is a pic of a tang I caught today and also a hi-hat and a damsel that I also caught. I can get many more kinds of fish including wrasses and blennies and file fish. I even caught a couple coral banded shrimp today. Let me know if you would be interested. I wonder if any stores would be interested in giving me some credit for some fish?


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also.....can someone ID this tang. It is mostly grey with a greenish/yellow tail. It also has some blue under its bottom fin. And the white stripe near the back of the body. I looked up tangs that live near florida and there are three that I found.
1. blue tang
2. ocean surgeon fish
3. doctor fish

I think maybe its a juvi doctor fish
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bathtub reef in stuart is really nice. Also ocean reef park in west palm beach. Red reef park down in boca raton is good. And whenever I can I go to the keys.
 
So does anyone want any doctor fish tangs or hi-hats? I have both in my tank right now and I love them. They are pretty nice. I am going back to the reef next weekend. $20 for the tangs and $10 for the hi-hats. Also willing to trade for snails, corals like xenia or zoos.

Let me know if you would like any damsels, file fish, or banded coral shrimp.
 
You would need a commercial license if you were selling the fish commercialy. But if I collect some fish and put them in my tank they are my pets. Collecting 10-20 fish is not commercial fishing. I can understand if I were selling hundreds of them. If I do sell some it would only be a few here and there. I am in no way trying to start a business. I am just trying to hook up my fellow reefers with some nice fish that I have access to for a cheap price. You really cant make a lot of money selling these fish unles you catch large quantities. Now if I were able to catch expensive fish it would be a different story. But the fish in florida are pretty cheap and not worth starting a business.
 
Just FYI, here is an email i received a while back stating some of the rules and regulations. It doesn't apply to wild caught fish, but still is good information.

The harvest of most species of Coral is prohibited in state waters. For more information, please visit our webpage at http://myfwc.com/marine/recreational/coral_questions.htm.

Live Rock:
Florida Administrative Code, Chapter 68B-42.008 (http://fac.dos.state.fl.us/) states:
1) No person shall harvest or possess for sale any live rock in or from state waters or land any live rock harvested in or from state waters, except as may be provided in subsection (3).
2) No person shall sell, within the State of Florida, any live rock harvested in or from federal Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) waters adjacent to state waters unless such person possesses and Aquaculture Certificate issued by the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services pursuant to Chapter 597, Florida Statutes, and a federal Live Rock Aquaculture Permit issued by the National Marine Fisheries Service under 50 C.F.R. Part 638.
3) Subsection 1) shall not apply to:
a) any person possessing an Aquaculture Certificate issued by the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services pursuant to Chapter 597, Florida Statutes, harvesting and landing rock cultured on state submerged lands leased from the State of Florida. Rock used for such culture shall be of a readily distinguishable geologic character from rock native to the area or be securely marked or tagged so as to differentiate the cultured rock from naturally occurring live rock. The rock shall be placed on leased submerged lands by the lease-holder or a person possessing written authorization from the lease-holder.
b) Any person lawfully harvesting substrate as part of the harvest of octocorals pursuant to subsection 68B-42.005(4) or paragraph 68B-42.006(2)(c), F.A.C.

Plants:
Depending on which plant species you are targeting, you may be required to obtain a Marine Life Endorsement. Plant life not covered by the Marine Life Regulations (http://myfwc.com/marine/recreational/recharvestmls.htm) may be covered by the Department of Environmental Protection's regulations (http://www.dep.state.fl.us/). For more information concerning the DEP, please contact the Bureau of Aquatic Plant Management at 850-245-2555, who is responsible for aquatic plant issues including spraying permits and contracted removal.

Live Sand :
“Live Sand” is a misnomer; basically sand per se is dead and of geologic origin: quartzite, oolitic, other calcium carbonate components (shell hash, etc). However, there are huge interstitial populations in some areas of hundreds of microscopic invertebrates comprising a number of different families/genera per square meter of sediment whose numbers and species diversity are seasonally variable. Yes, there are marine organisms present but unless the entire sample is fixed and stained and the dissecting microscope is used for many hours of tedious taxonomic work, the assumption would have to be that most of these species would be unregulated and it would take several tons of sand to get 100 lbs of interstitial marine organisms. Sand is not regulated by the FWC, however it is regulated by the Department of Environmental Protection (http://www.dep.state.fl.us/) and removal from the natural environment is a DEP regulatory dredge and fill issue. Please contact the DEP Bureau of Beaches and Coastal Systems at 850-488-7708 for more information.


For full text rule on Marine Life and what species may be harvested, please visit the Florida Administrative Code online at http://fac.dos.state.fl.us/faconline/chapter68.pdf and reference Chapter 68B-42 for Marine Life and our web page for Tropicals and Ornamentals at http://myfwc.com/marine/recreational/recharvestmls.htm.
 
Alright....If I cant sell them then I will trade for them. If anyone wants to trade for some fish let me know. Like I said I am not trying to make a living on this. I just want to get some stuff for my tank. Right now I have a hi-hat available if someone wants to trade something for it.
 
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I think you are missing the point Dave. Your intentions are not a privilage of having a fishing license which allows you to collect specimens for your own personal use and that's it. Your license does not allow you to repeatedly collect fish for trade or any other means.

You can go ahead and try if you want. Certain authorites may simply not care enough to bother in your case but your intentions are not within the bounds and privilages that come with your license.
 
Hey Dave, I agree with aquabucket, but IMO it falls under the "no big deal" catagory. If it becomes a regular thing, then it is a problem. I'm sure we can all agree that having many hobbiests regularly harvesting the native fish and selling/trading COULD lead to problems either with the harvest area and/or introduction of some problems to our tanks, etc. OTOH, if my neighbor brings home some nice fresh caught fish from his latest trip and I trade him some for a steak out of my freezer, I don't see a problem with it at that level...

I don't think Hi-Hats are considered reef safe according to
http://www.etropicals.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=41&pCatId=2450

I like that tang but I can't find any more info on it. Can someone post some links to general info about it?
 
Hey dave, do you have a qt tank that you put these guys in when you get them? I would never put directly from the ocean into a tank. Give them a few weeks of qt'ed and I'll grab one of the tangs. Just need to make sure the animals are disease free, since I currently do not hae a qt setup. I would recommend that if you trade them to do this with all the fish you get, because you do not want to feel responsible for someone's tank crashing...
 
hey dave sounds like it could be fun colecting your own fish, but trading and selling might be a little over board,

i might go out some time with you snorkling
 
I have had hi hats for years in reef tanks. never had a problem, i started collecting them when i was 10 in gitmo, cuba and still have them in my tank today. they take precaution on the hi hats, because when full grow, 9" which is unlikely in a home aquaurim, they will eat small fish. Unless you have minnow size fish they wouldnt be able to fit in their mouths. I have never lost one fish or anything else to a high hat in 20 years of having them or being around them. they are a great fish and do unbelieveably in home aquariums.
 
i have a 4+ inche high hat in my 90 with two skunks right now and he hasnt touched them. along with crabs (emeralds, decorators).
 
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