anyone tried to using Jebo WP40?

[Ron Reefman]

OK, I put the new pump into the tank and have it running at about 1/3 speed on the W3 wavemaker program. It cycles from a dead stop to 1/3 speed (I get to control that top speed it goes up to) and back to dead stop over about 6-8 seconds. The 2 corals I have hanging by monofilament at the center brace are now 'dancing' and most of the soft corals are moving back and forth. The pump has a faint, low pitch whirring sound that I wouldn't notice if it where constant. But because it ramps up and down I can faintly hear it. But it's not nearly as loud as the big Reeflo pump on the closed loop system. It doesn't get any louder when I let it go to full power (4500gph) but it moves a ton of water. I'm going to leave it running like like this for awhile as kind of a break in. I also found that when I set the controller down and had the light sensor blocked by a power cord, the pump runs at about 25% to 35% of the speed it is set for and stops pulsing. So the light sensor works. I'll see tonight if the moonlights are bright enought to keep it running or are dim enough to allow it to go into night mode. Now I want to listen closer to an Eco Teck MP40 and listen for pump sounds. My guess is the Jebao makes a bit more noise, but it's not loud enough that Elaine has noticed and she can hear way better than I can. At this point I'm OK with a faint low pitch whir and $250-$350 in my pocket.

 

[SimonSKL]

I have two Vortech MP40WES running in my 125g tank and when they are in pulse mode, I could hear it from at least 5 ft away. Can you hear the WP40 from 5 ft away at full power?

Is the ramping up and down gradual or instant? I understand the control knob adjusts the interval between cycles, can you adjust the intensity of the flow at all?

Good information Ron. Thanks for sharing

 

[GSMguy]

The mp-40 is pretty loud in pulse mode but the Jebo is under water so I would expect it to be quieter than the the MP-40.

The newer Ecotech pumps mp-10 and mp-60 seem to be quieter than the MP-40.

 

[paul26]

congrats on the pump ron! I just noticed your in Cape coral? lol im in Fort Myers! I feel like an idiot, i should have bought one when they were in stock. That pump looks HUGE also.

 

[Ron Reefman]

I have two Vortech MP40WES running in my 125g tank and when they are in pulse mode, I could hear it from at least 5 ft away. Can you hear the WP40 from 5 ft away at full power?

Is the ramping up and down gradual or instant? I understand the control knob adjusts the interval between cycles, can you adjust the intensity of the flow at all?

Good information Ron. Thanks for sharing

The knob controls the length of the cycle and it seems to ramp up and down in very small steps. I can hear it from 5 feet away when it's pulsing. If it let it run continuous the soft low whir seems to fade away like white noise. The only flow control is in continuous modes 'H' and 'L' which are 4500gph and 1500gph. All the wave modes go all the way to full. I'd love to have that control as a second knob!

The mp-40 is pretty loud in pulse mode but the Jebo is under water so I would expect it to be quieter than the the MP-40.

The newer Ecotech pumps mp-10 and mp-60 seem to be quieter than the MP-40.

I don't think it's the pump as much as it the vibration of the magnets and their rubber covers against the glass. I removed the magnet off the out side and you can still hear the pump vibrate. It's a very soft and kind of low pitch cross between a whir and a hum. I think because it's low pitch, it carries further than some other sounds. And I have it placed as high up the end glass as I can put it and not suck down a vortex of air (about 4-5"). When I listen over the top of the glass above the water the pump is almost dead quiet, but outside the glass behind the pump is where the sound comes from.

congrats on the pump ron! I just noticed your in Cape coral? lol im in Fort Myers! I feel like an idiot, i should have bought one when they were in stock. That pump looks HUGE also.

I think it's a bit smaller than a softball baseball. You are welcome to stop by and see it/hear it :twitch: if you want. I'm always up for showing off the tank.

 

[one clownfish]

That pump looks like a Tunze clone. Every new Tunze pump I've bought has had a slight hum to them. After about a week or so, they were all dead silent. I bet after it breaks in it will quiet down. If these pumps turn out to be reliable, I can see EcoTech and Tunze lowering their prices for sure.

 

[Saltydog2]

Spent the weekend moving a few rocks and a few small coral frags from my 72 gallon into the new 180 so I could see the effects of the WP40 on coral polyps. I'm impressed. Been playing around with the different settings and starting to make sense out of those confusing instructions. When I adjusted it for wave making it had the water rocking and rolling so much that my overflows were sucking up and down...didn't like that. I've settled on a nice ramp up and ramp down. Between this pump and my sea swirl, I have really good water action.

 

[C Dog]

Any updates

 

[tst400]

Spent the weekend moving a few rocks and a few small coral frags from my 72 gallon into the new 180 so I could see the effects of the WP40 on coral polyps. I'm impressed. Been playing around with the different settings and starting to make sense out of those confusing instructions. When I adjusted it for wave making it had the water rocking and rolling so much that my overflows were sucking up and down...didn't like that. I've settled on a nice ramp up and ramp down. Between this pump and my sea swirl, I have really good water action.

So u have one wp40 on a 180 and mo es that much water?

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[2dawghouse]

How is the flow pattern of these pumps? Stream like like the older tunze or more wide flow with good undertow like a MP40?

 

[alan.reef]

Does any one know the impeller rod is SS or ceramic.
I have use some Chinese pump past few year. the pump still running until the rod is fail in approx 14-18 month. time to save some $$$ for this wave maker....

 

[paul26]

The pump status changed from pre order to add to cart! i just ordered one!

 

[SimonSKL]

Does any one know the impeller rod is SS or ceramic.
I have use some Chinese pump past few year. the pump still running until the rod is fail in approx 14-18 month. time to save some $$$ for this wave maker....

The spec said ceramic shaft.

 

[alan.reef]

thanks Simon.

 

[Ron Reefman]

How is the flow pattern of these pumps? Stream like like the older tunze or more wide flow with good undertow like a MP40?

Mine is set as close to the surface as I can and not have it pull a vortex of air down from the surface (about 5-6"). I have it aimed pretty much parallel to the surface and slightly toward the front glass (my LR goes up to the water surface on the back glass). There are a couple of colonies of waving hand (soon to be removed) and they are seriously being blown back toward the pump. So the water is moving from right to left near the surface and letf to right near the bottom. I can't imaging having 2 of these in a 180g tank. The pump really needs a speed control along with the interval/timer control. 4500gph is a lot of flow! And the only mode with lower flow is 'L' and it is continuous flow at 1500gph (no waves).

 

[Ron Reefman]

I did a video and you can see how much the pump is moving water right to left near the surface and then the flow is left to right near the bottom. I tried to capture the soud of the pump with the camera mic, but the 2400gph Reeflo pump in the stand is all you can hear (that pump is getting louder again). I can't imagine having 2 of these WP40's in a tank smaller than 240g. I'm looking forward to the WP25 pumps coming out and trying 2 of them. Take a quick look at the back of the pump cage. It's very round and water pulls thru it and out the front. I'm wondering how much I can slow/reduce the flow if I start to cover some of the backside with something like a soft rubber or soft plastic. Any suggestions are welcome.

Click on the link (pic) below and it will take you to the video on Photobuckey:

 

[SimonSKL]

Ron, that's amazing flow you are showing in your 180g with just one WP40. That was my initial concern and now it is confirmed that you cannot adjust the speed of the pump other than time/interval. It is strange that we are complaining the pump is too strong. It is definitely not a wavemaker for small tank. I like your idea of covering the backside to restrict the flow. May be you can make a circular piece of plastic or acrylic that you can rotate and adjust to partially cover the backside. I ordered two WP40 for my 92 g corner tank. From what you said probably one is enough. I may have one to sell

 

[aandfsoccr04]

Great review of the pump. Looks like you got your money worth as long as the thing holds up for a couple of years. Nice tank!

 

[SimonSKL]

Ron, do you have a Kill-a-watt meter or some way to measure the wattage used in running the pump? From the adapter label, the output said 24V at 2.5amp which means around 60W. I suspect the actual wattage consumed is much lower in wave mode or in L mode.

 

[SimonSKL]

I am not knowledgeable in electronics but a couple ideas that I came across or stole from another forum to control the speed of the pump:

1. Use of a variable DC power supply with voltages like 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, and 24V. The lower voltage should lower the speed of the pump.

2. Since the light sensor reduces the speed of the pump, replace the light sensor with a variable resistor or one that can be programmed thru some kind of controller or computer to control speed. This is a brilliant idea if it works!