Are mp10's big enough
- Thread starter BPro32
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rtparty
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I just want to clarify that just because it is the EcoSmart driver, does not mean it is wireless. You have to purchase the wireless version. Hence why they have the MP10 ES and the MP10w ES. That little "w" means it is wireless.
If you get the MP10 ES you can upgrade to wireless later if you want. It is a separate RF module.
Don't want anyone getting the wrong product.
BPro32
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As a college student, I just can't justify buying a pair of mp40's with or without the EcoSmart driver. I actually should wait on buying the 20, just to see how much flow an mp10 could produce in there. I read an old review about a single mp20 in a 90g tank and they were amazed at how much flow this thing put out. Granted, it wasn't an sps dominated tank so it isn't exactly my situation.
How much flow does one really need? I think with the new mp10w es versions and their syncing ability you could get just as much and more random flow with 2 mp10s (~1575pgh each) vs one mp40 (~3000gph) for the same price? Especially since we are only talking about a 48x18x24 tank. If it were 60" plus then that might be different.
BPro32
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you know, going by the information I've read about the mp10's actually pushing more water than they're rated for and the fact that mp20's only push 2000 gph, I see no reason not to just go ahead and use a pair of mp10's... Heck, I might even buy a pair with ES and put the one I have on the back... hmm...
BPro32
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I have one MP40W on my 75 gallon. More rock in there than I would like and a lot of coral. The flow covers the entire tank. If it was me, I would spend the money on a single MP40W and then start saving for the second. It will cost you less in the long run, and with the new ES version coming out, you can get a MP40W for a pretty good deal if you dont need the new ES version.
BPro32
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I really just prefer lower flow coming from multiple places in the tank. In my solana I have 1 mp10 that is providing plenty of flow turned down a bit, but I added a k1 on the opposite side just to be able to get a little more even spread.
Does that make sense?
r-balljunkie
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i have used and owned both pumps. i am doing a new build, 36" cube, 18" tall. i am going with 2x mp10's. i dont see the wireless sync being that much of a benifit at this point......you could set both pumps to different modes, and get nice random flows.
i have one now on my tank, and cannot crank it up full power....2 will suit me fine on a 100G.
c
i have one now on my tank, and cannot crank it up full power....2 will suit me fine on a 100G.
c
trmiv
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I'd go with either 40's or 10's. The 20 is a pump without a place now in my opinion. Which is probably why it didn't get the ES upgrade. The 10's have the benefit of being really small, yet they put out really close to the 20's in flow. The advantage of the 40's is of course the massive flow. I run a 10 and a modded Tunze 6025 in my 65 and it is more than enough. I used to run a single 40, but I had to turn it down to around 60%
psykobowler
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2 mp10s are not good enough for a 90 gallon "SPS" dominated. You will end up adding more powerheads. For the same price you might as well get an mp40. I had 1 mp40 on a 40 breeder at full blast and I ended up adding 4 additional tunze 6025 to get good flow. Those 2 tiny mp10 pumps would look out of place in a 90 gallon tank let alone give enough flow.
BPro32
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I want to start off by saying you are absolutely insane!
:bounce3: I would never dream of having that kind of flow in a tank!I don't mind adding a couple extra powerheads. K3's and k4's are found used locally for $25-$35. I could also add a quietone5000 for a closed loop but that would be unnecessary after a pair of k4's.
I'm looking for a little alternating flow with the mp10's but those wont be the only source of water movement. With that said, will it work?
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I guess I am a little confused. 2 mp10s actually flow MORE than 1 mp40 so why would that not work. Plus if you have a ~1500gph from a couple returns plus the two mp10s you are over 3000gph thats 33x+ turnover. Thats not good enough? How much do you need?
r-balljunkie
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the issue here is the length of your tank. you are pushing the boundaries of the flow limits of a MP10. 24" is super, it will crest water really high. 36" is good, it will still have effects.
48" is so so, and depends on what you are looking for.
i like a lot of flow, but dont go nutso with it.
48" is so so, and depends on what you are looking for.
i like a lot of flow, but dont go nutso with it.
BPro32
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You're questioning a guy who had over 66x turnover plus a vortech mp40 probably putting it over 120x turnover depending on the level it was set... He just thinks differently than most of us
