black pvc union & valves -- do they exist?

[Steveb]

I am able to find black PVC pipe and fittings (elbow, tee's etc), but I have NOT been able to locate a source of black PVC unions and single/true union ball valves or gate valves.

I have been able to find single union black glass reinforced polypropylene ball valves from banjo (but not PVC) and polypropylene true union ball valves on freckleface (but I'm not sure they are black and not PVC).


Does anyone know of a source or do these even exist in PVC? I am hoping to avoid painting unions and valves black with krylon fusion.


Can find white sched 40 and gray sched 80 no problem.

 

[azjohnny]

You could paint them

 

[Steveb]

I am hoping to avoid painting them.

 

[Redman88]

I am hoping to avoid painting them.

why i am sure it would be cheaper.

 

[jimmyj7090]

You can use sch80 fittings which are dark grey. They won't be more restrictive like sch80 pipe would be.

Then again, spray paint sure is cheaper.

 

[Steveb]

why i am sure it would be cheaper.

You can use sch80 fittings which are dark grey. They won't be more restrictive like sch80 pipe would be.

Then again, spray paint sure is cheaper.

Yes I'm aware of the schedule 80 dimensions,color and price. I am looking at that as one of my options rather than all black PVC fittings.

As I said in my 1st post I wan't to avoid painting PVC. Its purely an aesthetics thing.

 

[dattack]

I would get ABS gate valves for flow control. There is a glue from PVC to ABS that should work.
And you can use black john guest fittings http://www.plumbingsupply.com/uv-resistant-push-in-black-fittings.html with no glueing involved.

 

[ca1ore]

Been buying all sorts of oddball plumbing for my tanks for longer than I care to admit and I do not recall ever seeing black unions or valves. Dark grey, yes,; black, no.

 

[ArmanS]

try contacting Aquarium Specialty, they are a sponsor on RC. Go on their website and shoot a message. They have colored PVC and fittings, and some sizes that I want were not on their website, so I emailed them and learned that they can get them.

HTH

 

[Steveb]

I would get ABS gate valves for flow control. There is a glue from PVC to ABS that should work.
And you can use black john guest fittings http://www.plumbingsupply.com/uv-resistant-push-in-black-fittings.html with no glueing involved.

Have a link on the gate valves? All I have found are the knife type valves.

Been buying all sorts of oddball plumbing for my tanks for longer than I care to admit and I do not recall ever seeing black unions or valves. Dark grey, yes,; black, no.

Yeah that is what I have run into. All of the pic's I have found of ones that are black are overseas and metric (and I'm not sure they are truly black vs. dark gray). I guess if I want to do black I'm going to have to resign myself to painting with glossy black krylon fusion.

try contacting Aquarium Specialty, they are a sponsor on RC. Go on their website and shoot a message. They have colored PVC and fittings, and some sizes that I want were not on their website, so I emailed them and learned that they can get them.

HTH

Will do.

Just as an FYI for anyone reading this thread I checked with BRS they did not have any colored fittings (just the pvc pipe).

 

[Drama]

You can dye them. Some cool vids on youtube of dying pvc fittings. Tank safe "?" Just a thought
Heres one I found real quick
Dyeing pvc bows with RIT dye: http://youtu.be/Ir-kuTVgHE8

 

[billdogg]

check with www.savko.com and www.usplastics.com Savko is my go to place for oddball pieces parts. They are local for me so I just drive over and talk to the guy behind the counter. They haven't let me down yet

 

[Steveb]

check with www.savko.com and www.usplastics.com Savko is my go to place for oddball pieces parts. They are local for me so I just drive over and talk to the guy behind the counter. They haven't let me down yet

They don't have anything online but I will give them a call. FlexPVC said they didn't know of manufacturer of black pvc unions.

 

[uncleof6]

I do assume that you know that painting these things will do more harm than good...painting valves and such that are intended to be taken apart by design, won't.....Krylon fusion bonds to plastic by dissolving the surface being painted, forming a mechanical bond (similar to solvent welding.)

 

[Steveb]

Yep which is why I was trying to avoid painting. I have painted unions before, taped off the faces and threads then painted which worked but its a pain... valves I haven't tried but was concerned about the stem, obviously would be taping off the inside of the valve where the pipe slips in.

 

[pakirri]

I do assume that you know that painting these things will do more harm than good...painting valves and such that are intended to be taken apart by design, won't.....Krylon fusion bonds to plastic by dissolving the surface being painted, forming a mechanical bond (similar to solvent welding.)

People have been painting valves for years with no issues.

 

[ArmanS]

Black Ball Valves and True Unions,

http://www.nibco.com/valves/chemtrol-valves/black-polypropylene/

 

[uncleof6]

There are quality issues with everything made by nibco.... just sayin....

 

[Steveb]

Thank you to everyone who provided feedback. After careful consideration, I'm going with gray fittings.

Way cheaper and easier to obtain. No painting/staining involved.

 

[mkj]

I agree with Dattack, get the glue for PVC to ABS from any home depot store and use ABS fittings or pipes where needed. I've done this for many projects. Easiest, quickest and cheapest route. No need to overthink.