Bought new led light fixture from China.

[conix67]

Is this too bright for moon lighting?

Is this Malibu S300 blue at 1%?

 

[conix67]

Actually, I take it back. If you're mounting directly on top of 48" tank, it could come up just a little short. You can place it on top, but it won't be very stable. I checked mine again, and mine is sitting on top of the canopy, which is about 1" wider than the tank itself.

 

[Chrisq0904]

Is this Malibu S300 blue at 1%?

It's the s200 with just Channel 1 at 1% everything else is at 0%

 

[Silfer]

these units are not too bright for moonlight, i use ch1 at 1% myself, put it to 2% yesterday, still good. Like the AI LED units i'm guessing you can simulate the moon going from 1~5%

 

[Fuzzy]

Well, I received one of my S200's and both power supplies today.
Unfortunately my 2nd S200 was destroyed by FedEx. And here is where the problem starts.

FedEx is saying the package could not be returned, so they tossed it in the dumpster.....
Understandably, Kevin needs to see pictures of the box to file a damage claim....
Which is not going to happen, since the box is history...

Meanwhile, I'm stuck in the middle, down one light fixture...

So far Kevin has been very good with communication, and says he will make it right. :thumbsup:

But, who knows what's going to happen with FedEx...:mad2:

Fortunately, I used my credit card with PayPal - so if this goes south, I've got a bit of time to start their process.....

In hindsight, I wish spent the money and bought the darn Radions.
Anyhow, I'll post the outcome of this messy situation.

 

[conix67]

Well, I received one of my S200's and both power supplies today.
Unfortunately my 2nd S200 was destroyed by FedEx. And here is where the problem starts.

FedEx is saying the package could not be returned, so they tossed it in the dumpster.....
Understandably, Kevin needs to see pictures of the box to file a damage claim....
Which is not going to happen, since the box is history...

Meanwhile, I'm stuck in the middle, down one light fixture...

So far Kevin has been very good with communication, and says he will make it right. :thumbsup:

But, who knows what's going to happen with FedEx...:mad2:

Fortunately, I used my credit card with PayPal - so if this goes south, I've got a bit of time to start their process.....

In hindsight, I wish spent the money and bought the darn Radions.
Anyhow, I'll post the outcome of this messy situation.

I've never heard of such case in the past, but I'm surprised Fedex just dumped it to dumpster and told you that it's been damaged and could not be delivered? It sounds almost like they are treating it as if the package was lost (worst possible case). In any event, Fedex must provide full details of the incident to LedZeal so they can claim the loss through shipping insurance and refund the shipping cost.

 

[SteJ]

Hi,

I'm new here but a UK member on another forum posted details about these units and they seem to be exactly what I am looking for.
I am just getting myself sorted on a new 36 x 24 x 24. The tank will have a hood and therefore limits me on options slightly. I figure I will do what I have done on my current setup which is to cut a hole in the hood just smaller than the 120w LED and then sit the unit into that

With the above in mind I reckon that I would be best getting an S150. The unit would be roughly 7 inch above the water line. Am i correct in thinking that the following would apply (5-10 inches 90 degree) ?

Appreciate that the 200 might be better for a 36 but that would mean a messy lid option

Questions being

Would the S150 be enough for a 36 x 24 x 24 and would the 90 degree be about right with the unit sitting just on top of the hood?

Thanks in advance and thank you for the interesting read through this thread

Ste

 

[Gillguy]

Hi,

I'm new here but a UK member on another forum posted details about these units and they seem to be exactly what I am looking for.
I am just getting myself sorted on a new 36 x 24 x 24. The tank will have a hood and therefore limits me on options slightly. I figure I will do what I have done on my current setup which is to cut a hole in the hood just smaller than the 120w LED and then sit the unit into that

With the above in mind I reckon that I would be best getting an S150. The unit would be roughly 7 inch above the water line. Am i correct in thinking that the following would apply (5-10 inches 90 degree) ?

Appreciate that the 200 might be better for a 36 but that would mean a messy lid option

Questions being

Would the S150 be enough for a 36 x 24 x 24 and would the 90 degree be about right with the unit sitting just on top of the hood?

Thanks in advance and thank you for the interesting read through this thread

Ste

Stej Welcome from across the pond,

If the unit will be only 7 inches above the water having 90 degree optics might work but you will be right on the edge. The reason is not the 36 inches, it's the 24 inch deep. At 7 inches you might not get coverage at the very top of the water at the front and back of the tank. You might need to go with 120 degrees unless you can raise the unit to at 12 inches.

 

[SteJ]

Stej Welcome from across the pond,

If the unit will be only 7 inches above the water having 90 degree optics might work but you will be right on the edge. The reason is not the 36 inches, it's the 24 inch deep. At 7 inches you might not get coverage at the very top of the water at the front and back of the tank. You might need to go with 120 degrees unless you can raise the unit to at 12 inches.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the advice

I thought about getting extra height but the lid will be the problem. I tend to go for hoods because of small children who like to play with paper airplanes, dog and people in the house who don't fully understand the need to keep polish sprays away from tank.......

Lifting the unit to 12 inches would mean that the light would have to be focused through the hole in the lid, or the hole be cut bigger which comes full circle to the reasons for having a lid. Only other option would possibly be to mount the unit under the lid and then I have to factor the heat exhaust which i believe is on the side of these units...

Looks like 120 degree is the way to go. Do you think the 150 would suffice for a 3ft?

Thanks again

Ste

 

[conix67]

I recommend 200 as well for 36" tank. In my case I removed the lid from canopy and the fixture is sitting on top. If you want it air tight, I could have removed the stainless steel brackets and let it sit on top of the canopy directly, and cover the rest of the lid area with another piece of panel cut to fit.

That way your canopy would cover the top against unwanted objects falling into the tank, and the light fixture will get necessary ventilation for cooling.

 

[Fuzzy]

I've never heard of such case in the past, but I'm surprised Fedex just dumped it to dumpster and told you that it's been damaged and could not be delivered? It sounds almost like they are treating it as if the package was lost (worst possible case). In any event, Fedex must provide full details of the incident to LedZeal so they can claim the loss through shipping insurance and refund the shipping cost.

I hate to say it, but that's what happened. I went in with another local reefer to save on the shipping. The shipment was delivered to his house, clearly damaged to the point the driver said refuse to accept delivery. After exchanging a couple emails with Kevin, he asked for us to have it delivered, take pictures, and send them to him. When I called FedEx they said it was going to be destroyed after notifying LedZeal. I said don't I must have pictures so I drove across town to the FedEx office, gave them my info, and told the story. The counter rep looked it up, verified what I was told, and went to look for the box. About 10 minutes later she came out and said it was in such bad shape the glass was falling out onto the floor, and they threw it away...

At this point FedEx isn't taking any responsibility and is telling me to contact LedZeal. Where I'm assuming it's the weekend and they are closed.

So, long story short, I'm short a fixture and now am stuck in between FedEx and LedZeal. Trying to get an answer as to who is going to accept responsibility for my fixture.

The up side, is the fixture looks great is really simple to program, and is unfreakingbelievably bright!

Now I just need some time off work to install it......

 

[SteJ]

If you want it air tight, I could have removed the stainless steel brackets and let it sit on top of the canopy directly, and cover the rest of the lid area with another piece of panel cut to fit.

That way your canopy would cover the top against unwanted objects falling into the tank, and the light fixture will get necessary ventilation for cooling.

Would there be enough focused light? i.e the lid would have to have a hole wider than the unit to let the light through unobstructed. I assume that this is where the optics would come into play? I must admit that having a lid is a bit of a pain at feeding, cleaning time when there is a LED unit propped on top

 

[Gillguy]

Would there be enough focused light? i.e the lid would have to have a hole wider than the unit to let the light through unobstructed. I assume that this is where the optics would come into play? I must admit that having a lid is a bit of a pain at feeding, cleaning time when there is a LED unit propped on top

SteJ, My unit is inside the canopy and mounted to the underside of the lid but if you modify your canopy/hood like Conix did by removing the lid, then you don't have to worry about drilling anything and you will have coverage throughout the entire tank. As far as cleaning the tank you just move over the unit since it's not screwed onto anything. Mine is screwed into the canopy but it's 14 inches high and I have a huge front door that opens up so cleaning is not a problem. I don't know what kind of canopy you have or if it has doors but you do have options it's just that you might have to modify it or build your own like I did. Here is a pic of Conix canopy and mine.

 

[SteJ]

SteJ, My unit is inside the canopy and mounted to the underside of the lid but if you modify your canopy/hood like Conix did by removing the lid, then you don't have to worry about drilling anything and you will have coverage throughout the entire tank. As far as cleaning the tank you just move over the unit since it's not screwed onto anything. Mine is screwed into the canopy but it's 14 inches high and I have a huge front door that opens up so cleaning is not a problem. I don't know what kind of canopy you have or if it has doors but you do have options it's just that you might have to modify it or build your own like I did. Here is a pic of Conix canopy and mine.

Thanks Gillguy and Conix

Further discussion and SWMBO has gone with the idea of not having a lid. Order placed for 3ft and when it arrives I will get the unit sorted and start playing around
Conix, what sort of distance from the water are you getting with the bracket and what optics did you go for?

Thanks for all the helpful responses so far

Ste

 

[conix67]

Conix, what sort of distance from the water are you getting with the bracket and what optics did you go for?

The distance is about a foot (~12") and I went with 120deg optics throughout. Even though it's 120deg optic, the light is still focused toward the middle.

 

[ScubaSteveOz]

Malibu S300 unit arrived for the weekend. Has been set up now for 48hrs now with only positive things to say - corals are happy and all opening up 100%. Custom configuration on the lighting unit works well too, with good combo across four channels. Lighting controller simple without many features but easy to use. 4 channels with 8 possible time points = 32 custom lighting combos throughout 24hr period. Still playing around with mine.

Brightness - don't need to run near 100% for corals to be happy. I've started off at low levels to let them get used to light, they are all out in full at 50% only. I intend to increase at ~5% per week, but quickly tested 4 channels at 80% and that's already very bright.

Optics - depends on depth of tank, height of lights above water and placement of corals. Apparently easily switchable but havent tried.

Moonlighting - 1% is probably ok for moonlighting..just (could be a bit bright for some).

Install - If you don't want the hanging kit, the brackets well support the 48" model, dont need rails.

Overall, an amazing unit for this price point. I can see this unit becoming more mainstream in the coming 12-18 months.Very happy with Kevin @ Ledzeal. Quick to respond and helpful to meet your tank requirements.

 

[volsfan199]

Do the brackets come standard with all units?

I am getting my unit Tuesday, hopefully. Excited to try it out.

 

[conix67]

Do the brackets come standard with all units?

I am getting my unit Tuesday, hopefully. Excited to try it out.

Brackets are not included unless ordered together with the fixture. Hanging kits come with all units.

 

[chem368]

I just read through this awesome thread, lots of good info. I am currently planning my new tank and these light caught my attention. But I am trying to figure out what fixture(s) to go with.

My tank will be 66G 32"W X 24"L X 20"D - Should I go with the 24" S-15 fixture running across the 32" dimension, or because my tank will be 24" long, go with 2 S-120 fixtures running front to back and place them 8" apart (which will leave 4" on each side for them to cover). I will be hanging them so I can play with height.

I was personally leaning towards the 2 S-120's with 90 deg optics (except 120 on any red LEDs based on what I've read).

Let me know what you think, I am pretty new to LEDs so just trying to get some outside opinions.

Thanks

 

[chem368]

So I think I am ready to order my lights. I am planning to go with the two S120 fixtures with the below layout. Both fixtures will have the same layout, everything will be 90 deg optics except the red and green which will be 120.

Hopefully it will give me the coverage I need on the tank I mentioned above. If anyone has any comments or feed back I am open to your opinions based on the experience everyone has been having since their lights came in.

Thanks