I am not gillguy but I will offer an opinion. The channels are set and cannot be changed unless the wiring was changed. I think the 300 would work I assume the 18 is front to back. The layout you have has way to much blue if you want a "slight blue" look. The gillguy layout is bluer than a 14 k metal halide which is what I used to use till I switched over and I had to get used to the bluer look.
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I am not gillguy but I will offer an opinion. The channels are set and cannot be changed unless the wiring was changed. I think the 300 would work I assume the 18 is front to back. The layout you have has way to much blue if you want a "slight blue" look. The gillguy layout is bluer than a 14 k metal halide which is what I used to use till I switched over and I had to get used to the bluer look.
Gillguy
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So I messed around on my computer and came up with these. I'm guessing the channels are preset and can't be regrouped, so I made variations with the same number of each LED. Knowing the 4 channels, which combination gives me better flexibility. Overall I'm going for a non-blue looking tank. I want the fishes to share the same amount of focus as the coral. Slight blue is ok.
None of those combos will give a least one channel with all blue. I would configure it so you get one channel with all blue and one UV and blue.
TangingOut
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Ok, I'll reconfigure but what's you're opinion on the number of each LED?
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How about now? I went back to remind myself of your colors and configuration. The only difference in color is yours has 6 royal blues and 2 UV while mine will have 4 royal blues and 4 UV. Will this be too blue for me?
If you feel that one might be too blue, then this one has got to be it then right?
If you feel that one might be too blue, then this one has got to be it then right?
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TangingOut
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I don't remember seeing that picture, but I'm only half way through the thread. Do you know which page it's on?
Oh, and yes that's 18" front to back. 90 optics sound right?
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How about now? I went back to remind myself of your colors and configuration. The only difference in color is yours has 6 royal blues and 2 UV while mine will have 4 royal blues and 4 UV. Will this be too blue for me?
If you feel that one might be too blue, then this one has got to be it then right?
I don't like either of those two because it will be extremely white in the center of the cluster and blue on the outside. I would move the red and green to channel 4 and place them in the center between the blue and use 2 Blues in their place.
Here is a link to Hodges pic . To me the pic looks bluer than it really is. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2338097&page=28
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TangingOut
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Gillguy, thanks for fielding the never ending train of questions. I appreciate it as I'm sure everyone else in this thread does too. Your suggestion above, was that the layout with the 14K LEDs? Also what optics do you suggest with the S300 8-10" AWL on a 60" tank? 90 all around and 120 on red and green?
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Yes the 14k are basically a white light. You add the whites and the red next to them and you'll have to much white in the center. I would replace the red and green with 2 blue and put the red and green outside in the center. Like in my layout. This will give you a better mixture.
Yes use 90 with 120 on red and green
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Oh and I like the first layout with the 4 UV's better
TangingOut
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Ok Gillguy, don't give up on me yet. lol Sorry for all the questions, but this will be my first foray into LED lighting and keeping coral. I've been on the fence with ReefBreader Photons and would've pulled the trigger by now if it weren't for the blocky design. LEDZeal seems to have exactly what I'm looking for. Good looking, full spectrum, fully programable, great value, and customizable layout to boot.
I think we're nearing the end as you've help me fine tune my layout. So between these two which would you prefer for an only slight blue tank? or would you change something?
I think we're nearing the end as you've help me fine tune my layout. So between these two which would you prefer for an only slight blue tank? or would you change something?
Gillguy
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Ok Gillguy, don't give up on me yet. lol Sorry for all the questions, but this will be my first foray into LED lighting and keeping coral. I've been on the fence with ReefBreader Photons and would've pulled the trigger by now if it weren't for the blocky design. LEDZeal seems to have exactly what I'm looking for. Good looking, full spectrum, fully programable, great value, and customizable layout to boot.
I think we're nearing the end as you've help me fine tune my layout. So between these two which would you prefer for an only slight blue tank? or would you change something?
The first one will be bluer than the second. I believe it will still be whiter than you think. For me if you use more than 6 white leds per cluster you will get a white tank. I'd consider replacing 2 whites with 14k or remove the 14k and replace with RB. Remember that you can control the percentages so if it's too white you can lower the whites. That's why you want at least 2 channels that have only blue or uv.
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I have a 120 with dimensions of 48x24x24 high and a center black brace and a canopy so the 4'-0" long fixture won't work for me. The 3'-0" fixture won't work as it has 3 light groups and one will be over the center brace. The only option is (2) S120's. These smaller fixtures have 2 clusters of 40 leds each so their layout is slightly different. Here it is:
Here is a pick Keven sent to show how they look.
Can anyone recommend a layouf as I believe the stock layout has too much white. Also can you confirm recommended lens angle.
Thanks
Here is a pick Keven sent to show how they look.
Can anyone recommend a layouf as I believe the stock layout has too much white. Also can you confirm recommended lens angle.
Thanks
TangingOut
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I believe this is what I'll end up ordering. I was thinking 120 optics on the red, green, and all whites. 90 on everything else. Do you think channel 3 with 4 UVs and 2 blues can be use for moonlight at 1%?
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Gillguy, you have the S300 on your 60" tank right? If you were to buy it again, would you go with the S400?
Deep Reef
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I have a 120 with dimensions of 48x24x24 high and a center black brace and a canopy so the 4'-0" long fixture won't work for me. The 3'-0" fixture won't work as it has 3 light groups and one will be over the center brace. The only option is (2) S120's. These smaller fixtures have 2 clusters of 40 leds each so their layout is slightly different. Here it is:
Here is a pick Keven sent to show how they look.
Can anyone recommend a layouf as I believe the stock layout has too much white. Also can you confirm recommended lens angle.
Thanks
Sorry here is pic 1
here is pic 2
again your suggestions would be appreciated
Hi guys,...I'm looking at the Malibu lights and need some input. My tank is deep,(42") so most likely 60 optics,... I like being able to layout the led's you want, the controller and the ability to daisy chain them. Any advice/thoughts in their use on a deep tank, and who are you going through for purchasing them? Thanks,---Rick
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I believe this is what I'll end up ordering. I was thinking 120 optics on the red, green, and all whites. 90 on everything else. Do you think channel 3 with 4 UVs and 2 blues can be use for moonlight at 1%?
Perfect layout. Yes at 1% they can be used for moonlighting.
I would if I did not have a custom canopy. The S400 would not fit inside my canopy. What I did was use 90 optics on the led on the edges and it gave me coverage on the side of tank. My lights are 12 inches above water.
Remember to order extra 120 and 90 optics so you can mix and match. They are cheap.
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