Brightwell Aquatics NeoZeo method.

[aravindk]

Getting started with the neozeo method...

I have a gross volume of 300 gallons. The pdf file says 2.5 ml every 100 gallons every day which means I have to feed 7.5 ml a day. The instructions on the product says 5 ml per 25 gallons which means I should feed 60 ml per day. Which one is right?

Also when calculating, should I subtract the rock volume to use the net volume of water to determine how much MB7 can I use?

 

[milkman55]

I used 40 ml per day for my 200 gal system, so the 60 ml would be right for your 300 gal. You only do this for the initial two weeks and then you drop back to that quantity only once per week per the instructions on the bottle.

I used MB7 to start up a new system and have been adding the maint dose once per week for the past 3 months. I am not dosing anything else yet.

 

[aravindk]

I used 40 ml per day for my 200 gal system, so the 60 ml would be right for your 300 gal. You only do this for the initial two weeks and then you drop back to that quantity only once per week per the instructions on the bottle.

I used MB7 to start up a new system and have been adding the maint dose once per week for the past 3 months. I am not dosing anything else yet.

Thank you!

 

[teesquare]

There seems to be a huge descrepancy in dosage if you read the PDF file on teh Brightwell website, and look at the dosage recommendations on the bottle. BIG difference.

Is this because the the PDF- titled the Neo Zeo Method- is a different useage of the products? As in: A complete "system" approach - vs - if you are using a product as a stand alone additive?

Anybody have input?

Thanks,
T

 

[agsansoo]

It's what milkman55 alluded to in his response above. The "initial two weeks" the dosage is higher, when your trying to lower nutrient in you tank. After you have achieved ULN, you have a maintenance dose.

 

[aravindk]

this is what the pdf says:

The following recommendations are based upon extensive testing and will produce the best results in most aquaria:
Weeks 1 and 2: Place 200 g each week of NēoZeo for each 100 US-gallons (378.5 L) in the entire aquarium system into an appropriate media reactor; adjust the rate of water flow through the reactor to ~25 gph (94.6 lph). Add 2.5 ml MicrōBacter7 per 100 USgallons daily.
Weeks 3 and 4: Add 200 g each week of NēoZeo for each 100 US-gallons (378.5 L) in the entire aquarium system into the media reactor; increase water flow through the reactor to ~50 gph (189.3 lph). Add 1 ml MicrōBacter7 and Reef BioFuel per 100 USgallons daily.

On the product label:

Medium- to High-nutrient Systems, or to seed Biological Filtration in new aquaria: To effectively decrease the concentration of available nutrients and waste material in all marine and freshwater aquaria, add 5 ml (1 capful) per 25 US-gallons (94.6 L) [˜4 drops per gallon (3.8 L)] of aquarium water daily for the first two weeks of use;
Medium- to High-nutrient Systems, or to seed Biological Filtration in new aquaria: To effectively decrease the concentration of available nutrients and waste material in all marine and freshwater aquaria, add 5 ml (1 capful) per 25 US-gallons (94.6 L) [˜4 drops per gallon (3.8 L)] of aquarium water daily for the first two weeks of use;

Clearly the pdf recommends much lower dosage than what is mentioned on the product label. Dont understand why. Although elsewhere in the pdf it says higher dosage does not cause any harm. So I am going with the higher dosage of the two.

 

[troyman]

dont you think the additives is helping more than the rocks the only thing the rocks do is provide a area for bacteria to grow on in saltwater it cant lower amonia or anything else thats a fact in a freshwater aquarium it cam zeolite is not effictive in salt water

 

[troyman]

there is proof that zeolite does not remove anything in salt water in freash water it does so all who want to waste money on stones for bacteria to grow on go ahead chris brightwell will say it all to sell rocks i use nitro bactor and bio fuel but aint fool enough to buy a reactor to put rocks in do reasearch before you buy foolish

 

[teesquare]

No need to be insulting Troy.... I don't be-grudge Brightwell for selling Zeolite as a bacterial culture media. It is so cheap that it is a non-issue.

I grow weary of the attiitude I often see expressed in this hobby against manufacturers. We want new products, better technology, and gadgets....But if someone wants to charge for it - we treat them like criminals.
They have to make a profit - in order to continue bringing things to market that we want. So, let's not hammer them too hard, o.k.? If you don't like a manufacturer - don't buy from them.
If you have PROOF that it is junk, or bad for your aquarium, PLEASE tell us. But - if not, please don't run them down, or make us as fellow hobbyists feel that you are calling us stupid.

T

 

[jceli728]

Help bringing phosphates down. Tank specs:

120g
20g sump (actual water volume)
100lbs of live rock
80lbs LS

I'm currently dosing 4ML of Bac7 once per week and 4 ML of biofuel everyday. I can not get my phosphate to go lower and I'm afraid of doing higher levels of biofuel. Current reading is .17 with a low range photometer.

All other nutrients are reading at zero.

Thanks

 

[rekn]

chris brightwell used to be the kent guy. he gets his stuff from the same place. theres a few manufacturers that have bad reps in the hobby for good reason, kent and corallife to name a few.




you say you want proof and theres been a few people with PHDs in this thread who denounce his claims. not trying to make you feel stupid but come on, what do you want? expensive scientific research done in your own home?

gone are the days of "whats this?"...we know why the world is round, what its made out of and how big our universe is. human science knows what chemicals do what and their relationship with reality. no ifs ands or buts. the science/proof is there.

No need to be insulting Troy.... I don't be-grudge Brightwell for selling Zeolite as a bacterial culture media. It is so cheap that it is a non-issue.

I grow weary of the attiitude I often see expressed in this hobby against manufacturers. We want new products, better technology, and gadgets....But if someone wants to charge for it - we treat them like criminals.
They have to make a profit - in order to continue bringing things to market that we want. So, let's not hammer them too hard, o.k.? If you don't like a manufacturer - don't buy from them.
If you have PROOF that it is junk, or bad for your aquarium, PLEASE tell us. But - if not, please don't run them down, or make us as fellow hobbyists feel that you are calling us stupid.

T

 

[recife111]

there is proof that zeolite does not remove anything in salt water

Find that hard to believe.

 

[Baros]

One brand of zeolites when tested, was shown to remove Iron and Calcium.

 

[agsansoo]

there is proof that zeolite does not remove anything in salt water in freash water it does so all who want to waste money on stones for bacteria to grow on go ahead chris brightwell will say it all to sell rocks i use nitro bactor and bio fuel but aint fool enough to buy a reactor to put rocks in do reasearch before you buy foolish

Do you have a link ?

 

[recife111]

so all who want to waste money on stones for bacteria

Fact is that it does remove something form the water like carbon. Once you add zeolite you will notice that the water goes crystal clean.

 

[geno7]

Fact is that it does remove something form the water like carbon. Once you add zeolite you will notice that the water goes crystal clean.

I will back you up on this. Something is going on there. The water clears up without any additives. The only thing I don't like is the increase in the biofilm with the addition of biofuel. I don't think the formula is as it should be. I've changed back to my own formula of VSV.

It is on the other hand a great alternative to the price of zeovit. I am happy to support the American market.

The additives on the other hand are wonderfull and I have gained positve results from the use. The biofilm or browning of my sand has got to go..... :uzi:

 

[FFrankie]

No need to be insulting Troy.... I don't be-grudge Brightwell for selling Zeolite as a bacterial culture media. It is so cheap that it is a non-issue.

I grow weary of the attiitude I often see expressed in this hobby against manufacturers. We want new products, better technology, and gadgets....But if someone wants to charge for it - we treat them like criminals.
They have to make a profit - in order to continue bringing things to market that we want. So, let's not hammer them too hard, o.k.? If you don't like a manufacturer - don't buy from them.
If you have PROOF that it is junk, or bad for your aquarium, PLEASE tell us. But - if not, please don't run them down, or make us as fellow hobbyists feel that you are calling us stupid.

T

Ditto!
After running a zeovit system for over a year and following the directions for it, I myself do not need to understand the full chemistry breakdown to believe that the method does in fact work and saw my aquarium go from standard run of the mill reef into a vibrant, stunning sps system.
I think what happens teesquare is people are intimidated when they are faced with something that will challenge their current situation.
I myself found that we need to "think outside the box", (boomer beat this into me over the past 7 years) if we want to advance.

 

[newsalt]

I have a 180g reef tank that is 11 months old. It is about 200g net with the sump. I have a Hair Algea problem now so I wanted to try something to see if it will help.
I'm not using the NeoZeo stones, but was starting off with adding 40ml of MicroBacter7 for 2 weeks per the bottle instructions. When the 2 weeks is up, What should I do next. Should I start including BioFuel? What dosing?

 

[Tony Romano]

Anyone here have 1st hand experience with both ZEOvite and NEOzeo? I am trying to decide if German Zeovites are worth extra cost.

New Salt - what are your NO3 and PO4 levels?

 

[newsalt]

New Salt - what are your NO3 and PO4 levels?

I'll check tonight and post results.