Bring out the BIG guns!

[dmanshep]

Another funny thing that draws a ton of questions is the registrant

Registrant:
Jerry Ohrn
7563 S Main St
Midvale, Utah 84047
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: QUANTUMMARINELABS.COM
Created on: 22-Feb-12
Expires on: 22-Feb-13
Last Updated on: 22-Feb-12

So umm.. is the company really valid? Come on Reefon.. Weak

 

[dmanshep]

Just seems a little odd that the company doing the "investing" wouldn't be able to register their own domain.. hmm..

 

[gypsyboy38]

Rtparty if I PM you my address, would you ship me a sample? I want to look at them on our SEM (scanning electron microscope). It is equipped with an EDX, so I would be able to determine elemental composition as well. The promoter has made so many aggressive statements that it has gotten me interested.

 

[dmanshep]

Hey I will ship you a sample of the "ACC" if you want..

 

[Spectre2006]

maybe they are trapping the ions inside "bucky balls".

 

[bertoni]

Okay, let's keep this thread focused on chemistry.

 

[Bugger]

As stated before, if you don't believe it, that is fine, if you don't want to try it, that is fine too, if you want to take your business somewhere else, the Exits are clearly marked. The greatest part of being American is the freedom of having choices. The next best thing is being in a country where there is no limit on the knowledge available, and the reality that our current knowledge is not infinite. According to those past experts, the world was flat and America was not even here.

No you are trying to swindel. you havent proved it works

 

[hilgert]

Subscribing...this thread is too good to pass up...

This stuff should mix well with my dilitium crystals from my warp drive.

 

[rtparty]

Rtparty if I PM you my address, would you ship me a sample? I want to look at them on our SEM (scanning electron microscope). It is equipped with an EDX, so I would be able to determine elemental composition as well. The promoter has made so many aggressive statements that it has gotten me interested.

If you pay shipping I will send you all of my bottles with whatever is left.

 

[rtparty]

Okay, let's keep this thread focused on chemistry.

Thanks Jonathan.

I am really hoping Randy has something to add but I understand he has already contributed and proven the chemistey incorrect.

I can't believe ReefOn compared to ions to light though. That blows my mind.

 

[FragIt Dan]

The proprietor of this stuff clearly doesn't know what he is talking about, I think that is a given. That said, disproving anything else he has said is a moot point as his credibility is already shot. I wouldn't bother trying to refute any of his other claims about 'blue light' and 'dilithium crystals' unless people are showing positive results with use of the product and we want to figure out why. So far that hasn't happened (thanks to those who spent their hard earned store credit), so although it might be fun to put this guy in his place, I think you will notice the SMRTer folks on this thread have already likely moved on. The guy is sending you on another stick chase and I predict will have another explanation for why you don't see what he said was there... It was a great read though and I will tag along just because it is fun to watch dogs chase their tail!

 

[billsreef]

Classic "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bovine feces" :lol:

Does he also have an ecoaqualyzer?

 

[Habib]

Thanks Jonathan.

I am really hoping Randy has something to add but I understand he has already contributed and proven the chemistey incorrect.

I can't believe ReefOn compared to ions to light though. That blows my mind.

FWIW, isolated calcium ion has a size/diameter of approx. 1 Angstrom. That is 0.1 nm.

One can compare the size with anything else which has a size/length such as a building or wavelength of light.

In an aquarium nanoparticles of calcium carbonate are formed. They are the precursors of precipitation (event).

One can easily calculate what the maximum concentration of calcium two part in a bottle of a particular size can be. Just assume it to be solid calcium carbonate of that volume.

 

[rtparty]

FWIW, isolated calcium ion has a size/diameter of approx. 1 Angstrom. That is 0.1 nm.

One can compare the size with anything else which has a size/length such as a building or wavelength of light.

In an aquarium nanoparticles of calcium carbonate are formed. They are the precursors of precipitation (event).

One can easily calculate what the maximum concentration of calcium two part in a bottle of a particular size can be. Just assume it to be solid calcium carbonate of that volume.

I just think if you are going to compare sizes compare similar objects. If this magic calcium is so small, tell me the sizes of the calcium particles found in the average 2 part calcium supplement.

 

[Habib]

Are you implying me with "if you"?

Or just in general?

I'm not endorsing it, see my previous posts.

 

[rtparty]

Are you implying me with "if you"?

Or just in general?

I'm not endorsing it, see my previous posts.

Just in general. I know where you(Habib) stand on this product.

Since I got a new phone, posting on RC is a lot more difficult than my old phone. My old phone loved this board but my new one hates it. If I miss a word or misspell something, it is honestly better for me to erase everything and start over. Therefore, I have to keep everything shorter on my phone and that can lead to problems.

 

[Cymaster007]

Has anyone gotten an update on any 3rd party analysis of this product?

 

[tmz]

Who would that 3rd party be? The product just can't be what's claimed . When specifics are challenged like carriers for Ca, Mg and Carbonate ,they disclose an oops there is sulfate,chloride and sodium. It's just nonsense,imo. The vendor won't do it since it's a secret pixie dust of some sort requiring clearance.Surprise.

It's not solute Ca ,carbonate or magnesium which is what corals use; not precipitated nano CaCO3 particles which is what it might most likely be. Useless, maybe harmful but probably not. Of course it might just be water with a little sand dust in it or just water and sugar or coffee or tea or potatoes or lime. or or or or .............

 

[Cymaster007]

Of course it might just be water with a little sand dust in it or just water and sugar or coffee or tea or potatoes or lime. or or or or .............

You are right, it could be anything. Mainly I was referring to the post from gypsyboy38 if he had a chance to take a closer look at it and give us some insight as to what was found under the microscope. Or anyone else that has looked at it for that matter-

One of our local shops out here has been using it with good results (Age of Aquariums) and I was told Exotic Reef Imports has been using it in their frag tanks so I am curious if any one else has had a chance to scientifically validate/invalidate it.

 

[tmz]

If someone does analyze it , I 'd be very interested in eh outcome.

Thanks for the information