BUILDING A DREAM....SPS Dominated Tank build

:wavehand: Chrishayes...thanks for viewing!!

To be honest this will be the first time i will be trying 3 part dosing. If you ask me its quite similar to addition of the 2 part system except that in addition to maintaining Calcium, Alkalinity, it also helps maintain Magnesium and Trace Element Levels.
Best suited if dosed using a doser. I am still reading :reading: up on this techique and i need to customize dosing to my tanks demands and requirements, still early days to determine that.

I have been adviced that for SPS dominated tanks 3 part dosing/Balling methods carry a slight but definite edge over 2 part dosing. I will be trying this on my system in the coming months as and when il be adding corals.

Best part of this dosing technique is, the chemicals can be DIY.

Will update on progress so please stay tuned.

Here are couple of links which is quite helpful do check it out:
http://reefdreams.de/lang_eng/info_3_eng.html
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php

You are spot on, and 100% right :thumbsup: its really exciting for me, though iv been in this hobby for sometime time now, each new tank is like a new adventure with new possibilities and lots of things to try and learn, the excitement is infinite :lol2: I am sure everyone in this unique hobby of ours will agree with me.

This hobby has taught me two important things...Patience and Responsibility.

Cheers :beer:

Oh trust me, I know the joyess fealing all too well and I too still feel it even after 15 years of doing it! Every new tank is like you get to start all over again gobbling up all the info you can possibly cram in your noggin plus the lofty dreams and visions of the endless possibilities for the system to come!

Also it only gets better with age cause usually that means you get more money to see more dreams to fruition! I can afford to buy whatever I want for my tank but I still DIY everything I possibly can because of the joy it brings and the way it makes you wake up full of energy and speed home to get back at it!

As to the balling method and 2 part, im no noob here but since auto dosing two part has worked well for me I guess I just never saw a need to change. I am just trying to get some definitive proof or opinion that it works better as like most of us, I want to do everything possible to improve the health and quality of my little slice of the ocean! I see most european reefer use it and you never hear them talk about brs style 2 part. DOnt know if thats cause its not available or if its akin to driving on the wrong side of the road just to not be like Americans! lol[/QUOTE]


Hi Chris, 15 years in the hobby ur a veteran, that's cool
We have the same train of thought here couldnt agree with you more on what you've said. :thumbsup:
Yes DIY gives you such a sense of pride and satisfaction when you see your ideas come into life, right?
I'd love to do more DIY on my set up but I think I'm bit chickened out on it coz I myself don't trust my skills :lmao:
But whatever I think I can do I always go for it.
Hmm hope ur wife or gf don't read this post, though our little reefs are a big inspiration to rush back home nobody has the balls to say it out loud :lol2:
Wifekeeping and Reefkeeping should go hand in hand :lmao: no other choice but DIY here!

Couldn't agree with u more I truly believe if something has been working for you don't change it coz each system is unique, things that work in one not necessarily will work the same way in another.
I try not to change or try something new on a well established system with corals thriving. I try to avoid experimenting on thriving systems. But in a new set up I feel the freedom to try new things and try striking a balance.
Balling, no pun intended:lmao:, is routine in European systems. Most of them prefer 2 part over 3 part. But iv seen that it's catching up in other parts of the world too.
 
Awesome skimmer! I have a Gen 1 and wouldn't part with it for any other skimmer even if it were free! :thumbsup:

Thanks M007 me too only heard good things about the Bubble King skimmers so I made my choice :)

Working on a sump ugrade now and will post more on my skimmers once it's installed and running.

Thanks for visiting my lil thread. :)
 
Yeah, im a vet but I never feel like it when I cant get rid of valonia or forget to turn off a kalk pump and all the other indiot things I do. I bugged my lfs for 4 years back at the age of 12 til they ran out of excuses for not hiring me as I turned 16 and had a workers permit! I still remember when I was promoted to saltwater manager in like 97' cause I got a HUGE pay raise! $7.15 an hour...but hey min wage was 4.25 and thats what id been making at Mcdonalds. Sad part is that I lived on my own at 17 with those earnings! I still managed to set up a 29g reef with a shrimp/goby and SWEET new PC lighting that I jerry rigged in my hood so bad that everytime I opened the hood to feed the fish I got zapped!

That happening over and over and not knowing how to fix it is what led me to go to electrical trade school and eventually my license allowing me to have a career in commercial building managment. Ive always kept a shrimp and goby since in every tank just to remember how much they influenced my life!

As to dem ballin europeans:lol2: yeah I wouldnt change calcium methods on an established tank but Ive started a new one so im more willing to try something new. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2046567

Like your choice of skimmers too! The neck to body height ration is insane!

Hi Chris, 15 years in the hobby ur a veteran, that's cool
We have the same train of thought here couldnt agree with you more on what you've said. :thumbsup:
Yes DIY gives you such a sense of pride and satisfaction when you see your ideas come into life, right?
I'd love to do more DIY on my set up but I think I'm bit chickened out on it coz I myself don't trust my skills :lmao:
But whatever I think I can do I always go for it.
Hmm hope ur wife or gf don't read this post, though our little reefs are a big inspiration to rush back home nobody has the balls to say it out loud :lol2:
Wifekeeping and Reefkeeping should go hand in hand :lmao: no other choice but DIY here!

Couldn't agree with u more I truly believe if something has been working for you don't change it coz each system is unique, things that work in one not necessarily will work the same way in another.
I try not to change or try something new on a well established system with corals thriving. I try to avoid experimenting on thriving systems. But in a new set up I feel the freedom to try new things and try striking a balance.
Balling, no pun intended:lmao:, is routine in European systems. Most of them prefer 2 part over 3 part. But iv seen that it's catching up in other parts of the world too.[/QUOTE]
 
Yeah, im a vet but I never feel like it when I cant get rid of valonia or forget to turn off a kalk pump and all the other indiot things I do. I bugged my lfs for 4 years back at the age of 12 til they ran out of excuses for not hiring me as I turned 16 and had a workers permit! I still remember when I was promoted to saltwater manager in like 97' cause I got a HUGE pay raise! $7.15 an hour...but hey min wage was 4.25 and thats what id been making at Mcdonalds. Sad part is that I lived on my own at 17 with those earnings! I still managed to set up a 29g reef with a shrimp/goby and SWEET new PC lighting that I jerry rigged in my hood so bad that everytime I opened the hood to feed the fish I got zapped!

That happening over and over and not knowing how to fix it is what led me to go to electrical trade school and eventually my license allowing me to have a career in commercial building managment. Ive always kept a shrimp and goby since in every tank just to remember how much they influenced my life!

As to dem ballin europeans:lol2: yeah I wouldnt change calcium methods on an established tank but Ive started a new one so im more willing to try something new. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2046567

Like your choice of skimmers too! The neck to body height ration is insane!




Hi Cris:wavehand:

Cool that u were inducted into this wonderful hobby at a very early age and still you are keeping that passion burning :angryfire:

You are lucky to have found a job at such an early age....and mixed business with pleasure and got paid sweeeetly for it too :bigeyes:

The story of how you got "zapped" into taking up an electrical course is inspiring :)
I like the "shrimp goby story" Its nice to have something sentimental attached your slice of the ocean. Helps one to appreciate the simple things in life.

I saw your thread...and boy am i amazed at your DIY skills...super cool...
And since you are setting up a new tank give balling a try, European style :lol2:

Always nice to hear from ya on here... :)
 
Wifekeeping and Reefkeeping should go hand in hand :lmao: no other choice but DIY here!



Oh, and this about made me shoot gatorade thru my nose!!!!!!!!!!
 
I see you have chosen the bubble king. Great choice Im sure you will love it. So what fish is on the top of your fish list at the moment, what can we expect for the future?
 
I see you have chosen the bubble king. Great choice Im sure you will love it. So what fish is on the top of your fish list at the moment, what can we expect for the future?

Thanks Brett:wavehand:

One fish top on my list is the Potter's Angel. Just amazing colouration. I was lucky enough to find a 2 inch juvenile specimen. Potters are not always available and tiny ones more difficult to get. He is on quarantine and initially was not accepting any artificial stuff but after almost a month of hide n seek he is started to accept frozen dwarf angel and angel fish formula.
I will be introducing him within a day to my tank after drip acclimatization for 2 hours. I want him to be the first main inhabitant so he can graze freely and no major competitors for food.
I love this fish, and keeping fingers crossed that he will do well :worried2:
Il post pics soon.

Future hmm I just finalized my sump design it's nothin fancy but with just two baffles but larger dimension, custom made to accept the Bubble King 180.
Then I'm planning on going the "balling" way :rollface:
So working on getting an aquarium controller with doser combo.
Fishes:fish1: Flasher/Filament wrasses are one among top of my list. Trying to get some varieties in pairs. I love observing their firework display :lmao:. But not easy to find the varied varieties easily but I'm gonna make an attempt.
Will keep ya posted :fun4:
 
Fish Update...

Added Potter's Angel....
I was lucky to get an under 2 inch specimen :)

He is a very shy guy...tough to get a good snap....:headwallblue:
He was accepting frozen food in quarantine. He is currently grazing around on the live rock....keeping fingers crossed he gonna accept food in the display tank....:hmm2:

Potters.jpg


This is what Mr. Potter had been feeding on in quarantine...

FrFood.jpg
 
:thumbsup: Great job documenting your build. Looking forward to seeing your fish and coral selection.
 
:thumbsup: Great job documenting your build. Looking forward to seeing your fish and coral selection.

Thanks for visiting Dan!
I'm doing the best I can documenting my build.
Will be stocking corals and fishes in coming weeks.
"Slow but sure" that's the way to go:spin2:
Do follow the ride. :spin1:
 
Water Parameters 19/8/2011

Salinity: 1.025ppt
Temperature: 26 - 27 Celcius (Sander Temp moniter)
pH: 8.3 - 8.4 (pH controller/Salifert)
Alkalinity: 8 dKH (Salifert)
Ammonia: undertectable(Red Sea)
Nitrites: undetectable(Red Sea)
Nitrates: 5ppm (API)
Calcium: 450ppm (Salifert)
Phosphates: 0.03ppm (Salifert)
Magnesium: 1200 (Salifert)

Magnesium Levels need to upped a bit to the optimum...
Rest of the parameters looks more or less okay.
 
Update....Corals

Parameters seem "OK" :uhoh3:...So its time to add Corals....;)
I am not sure if its too early to add corals, but i selected some fairly hardy ones...


Corals1.jpg


More pics later, once i have arranged them and they'v settled in :D
 
ummmm sorry but none of those look like sps to me!? sps dominated my A$$!...

Just kiddin! Love the fish selection, ive always like potters myself. We used to get them ALL the time back when I was managing the saltwater section of Byerlys. I wish I could have copies of our distributors "available" list now. You'd be amazed at the variety that was available back in the mid to late 90's. I mean, if its in the ocean, tropical or arctic, you could have it shipped to you. Im torn between whether im happy or sad about that. I mean im happy that abalone, dendros, san fans and crinoids are no longer wasting away in lfs tanks with $200 price tags due to the collection hazards and shipping, but at the same time, look at the sps that we all covet today. They were all once thought to be imposible to keep in aquaria. If they are endangered or on the brink, then no it makes no sense to jeopridize a species just for ornamental purposes but if the reefs were harvested in a responsibly sustainable way then I cant see why we shouldnt try to "experiment" with them in captivity. Hell, look at some of the literature out there about preparations for awauarium grown coral to repopulate portions of destructed reefs.

Its a paradox for sure.

Keep up the good work and post some updates on the potters acclimation to his new home and how the corals do. I reccomend sticking to a good waterchange routine since the tank is so new. Youll have wastes builing up much more rapidly without well established biofiltration.
 
ummmm sorry but none of those look like sps to me!? sps dominated my A$$!...

Just kiddin! Love the fish selection, ive always like potters myself. We used to get them ALL the time back when I was managing the saltwater section of Byerlys. I wish I could have copies of our distributors "available" list now. You'd be amazed at the variety that was available back in the mid to late 90's. I mean, if its in the ocean, tropical or arctic, you could have it shipped to you. Im torn between whether im happy or sad about that. I mean im happy that abalone, dendros, san fans and crinoids are no longer wasting away in lfs tanks with $200 price tags due to the collection hazards and shipping, but at the same time, look at the sps that we all covet today. They were all once thought to be imposible to keep in aquaria. If they are endangered or on the brink, then no it makes no sense to jeopridize a species just for ornamental purposes but if the reefs were harvested in a responsibly sustainable way then I cant see why we shouldnt try to "experiment" with them in captivity. Hell, look at some of the literature out there about preparations for awauarium grown coral to repopulate portions of destructed reefs.

Its a paradox for sure.

Keep up the good work and post some updates on the potters acclimation to his new home and how the corals do. I reccomend sticking to a good waterchange routine since the tank is so new. Youll have wastes builing up much more rapidly without well established biofiltration.


:wave: hiya Chris...

:D You are right , they are not SPS....you nailed it...:hammer:
I am gonna wait a bit more longer for my SPS addition :twitch: need to let the tank mature bit more i guess...and get the parameters to a more ideal level.
There was a good shipment of LPS...and i bagged some healthy and striking pieces. The tank will be SPS dominated but there will occasional LPS or misc corals...corals which are unique and i cant resist getting :D

Yes, even i am a proponent of preserving our natural resourses, i always buy CITES certified corals from legal importers. The SPS corals i am going to stock will only be aquacultured specimens and never wild collected specimens. Nature should be preserved at any cost and it shouldnt be abused by our selfishness and its most important for our hobby to survive.

I think its a good thing that nowadays anything and everything in the ocean is NOT easily available and there is more awareness, regulation and control. Our hobby should be restricted to keeping what has been proven to thrive in the captive enviornment and let experiments be left to the qualified. And we all as a community should be morally and ethically responsible in what we are stocking in our tanks and we should know what we are doing.

The Potter's angel is doing well till now. He is accepting the frozen food, but not aggressively chasing after it, thats what worries me if i am gonna add more fishes and hence more competition, i am not fully certain he can compete. He is constantly picking on the live rocks, which is a plus. I will wait and watch the progress.
 
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