Building My 375gal Glass Reef

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yeah, about the heat: Electrical current generates heat all along its path, including the insulated wires. So when the wires are zip-tied tightly together, there is less ability to expel the heat the way the wire was intended to. Most of the time this doesn't matter because the manufacturer will use the appropriate specified wire, or even "play it safe" by using a wire at one level better.

But if you go to s atore that sells a variety of powerheads, you will notice that the wire sizes aren't all the same for the same power pump, nor do they always step up as the power steps up between different power points.

When you tie wires in a tight fold, like a lot of us do for neatness and organization, you in essence lower the amount of power the wire can handle before it overheats.

Then if you add an outside event like a power surge, you can run into real trouble. I have and actually had a fire start under a secondary QT tank. The wire just wasn't able to handle the heat and caught fire.

Personally I would not use Gutter Guard. I think it presents too much surface area for algal growth and does not always make for a good fit. I have seen it often zip-tied to overflows which makes it less likely to be removed for cleaning.

The removable overflow combs I have are made ny Aqua-Medic:

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I got mine from AquaCave.com. In fact, at the time they were selling them on eBay. I attached mine using Weld-On 16, although I am sure any acrylic or multi-purpose plastic adhesive would work.
 
All of the Tunze cable visible in your pictures appears to be above "spec.", but I will tell you that one of my incidents that resulted in an actual fire was with one of their low-end powerheads. (not a controllable model)
 
Yes, as far as the 6205s are concerned, all the cables on both the pumps and 24V power adapters seem to be very "high end" (as well the should :rolleyes: ).
 
I too am like Tom -- a neat freak, :p so I tie wrap everything. I was a little concerned about the heater cables as they tend to carry more load than the pumps, so rather than tie wrap I rewired the Aqua Logic power leads (to the heaters) to shorten them up. I guess if the wire is of a decent size then heat dissipation shouldn't be an issue. I know most cable I see on pumps and such is rated for 600v so heat dissipation when running 120v should be no problem.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14417177#post14417177 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IBASSFSH
EnglishRebel here is a link to some comments on AO tanks.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1575029&highlight=aquarium+obsessed+tanks

IBASSFSH
That was a Lee Mar tank and it was pretty darn long. Mine is going to be 60x30 with Eurobracing but no center brace (not needed). Frank at Reef Concepts actually cut out the center brace on his 48x30 (I told him he was crazy but it held okay :eek2: ). He didn't like the green hue the regular glass gave to his tank.
 
Yeah, I guess I was referring to how the eurobracing is done. AO is said to use the same process as the Lee Mar. I attached another link above.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14417301#post14417301 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IBASSFSH
Yeah, I guess I was referring to how the eurobracing is done. AO is said to use the same process as the Lee Mar. I attached another link above.

You know BASSFSH, I appreciate your concern but it seems every company can have problems. I looked at that link and one poster said:
'Greg, i am sorry to hear about the tank. I hope you regain the interest and get back to the hobby soon. Elos, AGE and Lemar are good company to deal with'.

Wasn't Lemar (sp?) the company that the person was trashing in the first post you referred to?

I've seen Glass Cages trashed here on RC and yet some people brag about their service. Go figure.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14417692#post14417692 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by IBASSFSH
You are correct, I have heard bad about Oceanic also. That is what I currently own. :)
I guess if you posted a poll, you would get a bad comment about ALL the tank manufacturers.
 
One reason that I bought the Perfecto Marineland 300 is that a local reefer bought the same tank and it failed due to his non-Perfecto stand failing. Perfecto replaced the tank anyway. That's beyond customer service.
 
For me, it's mostly about the person I'm dealing with. Most of the time you can tell if they're going to provide what's necessary to do right by you. I've very rarely been wrong with that feeling. It's a sense I think most of us have.
 
Im looking to upgrade to a 240-300. I have 5 quotes. If you take the most expensive and least expensive quotes out of the equation, you are left with 3 that are within 200 of each other using the same materials, and construction techniques. After that, its just preference, or who will throw in a better shipping rate, or seems to be more helpful on getting you exactly what you want.
Order from low to high on a 240 gal 96x24x24:
GC
AGE
Miracles
Concept
Coast to Coast
 
I'll jump in but to what point I am trying to make, I am not sure.

I don't want to take this wonderful thread off track but here is my two cents worth.

I have a apprx 240G Starphire(actually Low Iron Glass) Tank EuroBraced with Starphire with 8 custom drilled holes. And it was made by Glass Cages. The reason I chose to purchase from them was because they met my criteria which was prioritized. So based on your criteria and priorities and IMO this will effect who you purchase your tank from.

For me, listed based on priority; cost, customization, efficacy, and build quality made up my list.

Although the seam neatness on my tank is sub par, thats the trade off. However this tank is reinforced where it needs to be and for two years and counting the tank is still holding water. I think GC has like a 90 day limited warranty and their service is less than stellar but they build a solid tank.

And to Rouselb's & GlassReef's points if you do your due diligence and develop a comfort level with the builder and they can build to your specifications then go for it if it. I am going out on the limb on this one with anecdotal evidence but has not any builder of tanks at least encountered one failure or ****ed off customer?

Great build Tom!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14424321#post14424321 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rpeeples
I don't want to take this wonderful thread off track but here is my two cents worth.
Considering the thoughtful content of your post, you can take my thread off track any time you want :). Oh - and thanks for the compliment. :D
 
OK - so here's my two Orca 250 PROs doin' their thing.

First a close up of the collection cup on the right skimmer:

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Then the left:

Collection-Cup-Left.jpg


Here you can see that both skimmers are pulling exactly the same amount of gunk - and a lot of gunk it is :D :

Collection-Cup-Both.jpg


This is important. Some of you may have read the thread I started a while back about the advantages/disadvantages of using two skimmers simultaneously. Many were of the opinion that, if you run two skimmers at once, one skimmer will "shut down" the other - making the use of two skimmers redundant. These pics prove, once and for all :cool:, that two skimmer work together just fine. They do exactly what I intended - get the gunk out faster than just one skimmer could. :)

One more pic:

Skimmers-Working.jpg
 
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