Tonight I went to some local fish stores to take a look at their sumps. I was trying to get a better understanding on how they work and how to build mine. My last stop was a place in Albany(I will not mention names but I am sure you will figure out who I am talking about) I began explaining to him on how I bought a new tank and what I had purchased for my tank and sump. He tells me that he has no use for me since I had everything and why should he sit here and explain how things work since he will not benifit from me. He also goes on to tell me that for $ 400 he would build me a sump. He goes on to explain that everything I do is wrong, how I should use only gravel not sand, that I do not need power compacts , live rock. this man is an *******. I explained that I was scared to lose my mandarins in the move. He told me that fish come and go. I am sure you all know this arrogant *** who own D'''Y Jones. what a jerk and god he was so rude. I will never go there again. the only reason I went there was to see linda and check out some sumps. thanks for letting me vent to you all.