Canon 65mm pics? Can't find thread

Siffy

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I know I wasn't dreaming when I saw a picture with just a pod in it a few days ago. I was looking for the thread tonight and couldn't find it again. I wanted to ask the person with their new macro lens what they think about it, and I was hoping to see some more sample pics. I'm getting a DSLR for Christmas and now I'm weighing the Sigma 150mm vs the Canon 65mm. Anyone who has/knows the lens feel free to reply.
 
What are you planning on shooting? The working distance is really short. Unless you want to shoot something right up against the glass, it won't be terribly useful for aquarium photography. The working distances are as follows:

1x: 4"
2x: 2.5"
3x: 2.0"
4x: 1.7"
5x: 1.6"

Also, it's really hard to focus at higher magnifications because not much in the way of light makes it through the lens. And you do know that it's only manual focus, right? You dial in the level of magnification you want and then you move the camera back and forth until you get the focus you want.

And light. You really have to have some good flash to make it work. I have the macro twin flash of Canon's that mounts on the end of the lens. It really makes it much easier.

All that said ... it's REALLY freakin' fun!! :) Great glass and I'm having a ball with it.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11352234#post11352234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by "Umm, fish?"
And you do know that it's only manual focus, right? You dial in the level of magnification you want and then you move the camera back and forth until you get the focus you want.

Now THAT's manual focus! You actually have to move the camera? That could be quite a trick to get in the right spot on a tripod.

Nice photo of that ric.
 
Thanks!

Well, I guess you don't _have_ to move the camera. I guess you could use the focusing ring, but it's way too course a way to focus because of the massive lack of depth of field. That is, you're going to be moving the camera back and forth for your final focus anyway. But, I do that with the 100mm lens, too.

Anyway, that's what focusing rails are for.
 
Well, I was thinking about making some posters of rice grains. Not really. Thanks for the feedback Umm, fish?. It lets me know this isn't the macro lens for me right now. Definitely not as a first one. Back to the Sigma 150mm. I'll be trying to get good shots of corals, inverts and maybe fish. Mostly zoanthids.

It does provide some great interesting shots.
 
Check out the Canon 100mm/f2.8. It seems to be universally acclaimed as a great lens and has worked very well for me.
 
I think I'll get the Sigma 150mm now and likely get the Canon 60mm macro at a later time for more versatility. Does that seem like a good idea?
 
I don't have any personal experience with that lens, but I surfed a couple of reviews and the word sounds good. Be sure to check around, though. The only question I have for you is how much room you have in front of your tank. From what I could tell, the working distance is 15", which is great when you have to photograph things at the back of the tank, but it sucks when you're trying to photograph things in the front. Your tripod'll be way out into the room and the possibility of getting glare from the glass is much greater. Also, you'll need powerful flashes or to move your flash well away from your camera (not a bad idea anyway, though).

I want the lens, though, after reading a little about it. It sounds like it would be great for shooting bugs. I'm trying to hold out for the Canon 180mm, though.

The 65mm is really for people for whom 1:1 macro is not enough. Actually, for people who aren't satisfied with 2:1 either. It's really a specialty lens. If you fall hard for macrophotography, you might wind up with it. But, if macro is just something you do once in a while you can certainly do without it.
 
Everything I've read/seen on it is positive. Tank depth will vary from 12-24". I plan to shoot multiple tanks with it, mainly a 29, 40B and 120g. I've been under the impression people tend to not use a flash when taking macro shots, but only use the lighting the tank provides. I still don't have a complete grasp of the distance numbers people throw around. I think I get it, then I see it phrased in another manner and then neither way makes sense.
 
I've taken a lot of macro and closeup photos, mostly in a 120, with the Canon 100mm. Yeah, the stuff at the back of the tank wasn't quite at 1:1, but it was pretty close and I'm happy with the results.

I've been under the impression people tend to not use a flash when taking macro shots, but only use the lighting the tank provides.

I gotta tell you, I spent the first six months (or more) shooting just with tank lighting and I'm not going back. You'll never get the sharpness or level of detail that you really want. You'll wind up taking 30-40 shots just to get one that comes out ... well ... okay and that's if you're using a tripod. But you'll never get the _really_ nice shots (like the ones that Greg and a few of the other people around here take) without working supplemental lighting into the scheme.

That ricordia shot up there was handheld, as was the snail and spider. I'm not saying that my goal is to handhold all my shots. The coral and snail photos were taken in a LFS and I didn't want to impead their flow of customers too much. But, it's just so much easier if you get some flash coverage so you can use a smaller aperture and quicker shutter speed. I will consider shooting some of the Acroporas without flash because I've found that the flash brings out the browns and suppresses the beautiful colors in those corals. (BTW, can anyone tell me how to avoid that effect when using a flash with Acroporas?) But, I'll also consider shooting some different corals instead. :)

What I was talking about with the distance number above is the closest distance that the lens can focus on a subject. For the Sigma you're talking about and the Canon that I use, if you twist the lens so that it's focusing as close as it can go, whatever you are focused on without changing the lens will be at 1:1.* You _can_ still twist the lens out and focus on things that are farther away, but they will be smaller than life size when you take the picture. But, with the Canon I think the closest focus is 6"-8" or so. With the Sigma I think I saw that it's 15". At any rate, whatever that number is, you have to be at least that far away from your subject to focus on them.

*By the way, I've oversimplified some of my explanations for you a bit. There are also other factors at play such as the effect of my camera (I don't know what camera you have) having a sensor that's actually smaller than the size of 35mm film. So, when I'm taking a shot that should be 1:1, I'm actually already taking a photo that's a little beyond lifesize. And, my 100mm macro acts like a little longer lens for my camera. But, all that is a bit much for this lens conversation. I just wanted you to know that the things that I'm saying have an implied asterisk with a great big footnote that should be around here somewhere, but they are technicalities that we can avoid unless you're really interested.
 
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