Captive bred mandarins by Biota

I know how small they can be. I used to have them all over the glass on my 75. My 180 I can't see any. And I've tried a mandarin, got pretty skinny so I gave it away.
 
I know how small they can be. I used to have them all over the glass on my 75. My 180 I can't see any. And I've tried a mandarin, got pretty skinny so I gave it away.
Those that I pictured above you would not see on your glass. Maybe the one with egg sacks. That one would look to be a very very tiny speck that moves. It is well under a millimeter. The others measured in microns.
 
All mandarins will eat frozen and pellets. They are poor competitors for food, however and feeding the aquarium once or even twice a day would not be sufficient to properly maintain them in the long term..
While feeding them only frozen food is not enough to sustain them, it can be a vital supplement to support them in smaller tanks with a limited pod population.
And how well they compete for the food really depends on their tank mates. Since they will pick frozen food off the ground they may do fine in a tank primarily stocked with plankton feeders that ignore food on the ground.

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When ora released (sure it was ora) spotted mandarins to the market a few made it over here and we snagged a few for the shop. The nice lady who bought the pair couldn't get them to eat frozen or pellets so I'm not sure it's a guarantee that because they were raised on them, that it is a definite they will stay on them.
It was also interesting to note that they were a different colour. Perhaps diet related.
 
The article is very interesting. I am starting up my 120 and really love having manadrains. This is something I will try
 
Those that I pictured above you would not see on your glass. Maybe the one with egg sacks. That one would look to be a very very tiny speck that moves. It is well under a millimeter. The others measured in microns.

I used to see small white dots all over the glass. Now not so much
 
Oh I believe you. Do you use filter socks or other fine filtration? UV? Do you feed much algae based foods? Nori? Phytoplankton?

I've always used 200 micron filter socks but now I have a uv. The pods seemed to be gone even before the uv though. Maybe I'll start feeding more algae based foods and see what happens
 
The fish came in today. Packaging was very good, and they came with some free pods and phytoplankton.




These guys are tiny. Maybe 1". They seem to have decent weight. It certainly not fat.



All settled into quarantine.

 
Iv had mine in my QT tank for two days now. I acclimated him to temp. and salinity and put him in. My QT is cycled (params below) with sand and rock but nothing else.
The little guy is very small approx. 3/4" -1". He's been listless and not eating or moving at all. I've got a copepod culture and have been offering him tons of copes and also trying cyclop.

I'm pretty worried about him and give him a 50/50 chance of serving the week.
I'm not sure what to try to bring him back to life, any suggestions?
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QT water
Salt: 1.025
Temp: 79
NH3: 0
NO2: 0
NO3 <1
CA: 400
PO: 0
KH: 9
PH: 8.2
 
Mine were both very still the first day, but today the are swimming around and associating with the rock, cant tell if they are picking at it or not. Voodoo, I would just keep an eye on him and not disturb it too much. I bet he will begin picking at the rock soon.
 
Mine are both picking at the rock now, swimming around and appear to be happy. They are thin though and haven't gone for any mysis or pellets. I added another rock to quarantine. If they don't put on some weight and don't show any signs of disease I may cut quarantine short. From what I have read they are very unlikely to have Ich because of their thick slime coat. Can anyone elaborate on that ? Risk vs. reward.
 
Mine are both picking at the rock now, swimming around and appear to be happy. They are thin though and haven't gone for any mysis or pellets. I added another rock to quarantine. If they don't put on some weight and don't show any signs of disease I may cut quarantine short. From what I have read they are very unlikely to have Ich because of their thick slime coat. Can anyone elaborate on that ? Risk vs. reward.

You are trying a pair in a 15 inch cube?
 
So mine is doing a lot better today. He's been cruise the rocks all day looking/eating copes and he even ate some cyclop I targeted him with. I'm pretty happy he's perked up I was really worried I was going to find him floating this morning.
 

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Mine are both picking at the rock now, swimming around and appear to be happy. They are thin though and haven't gone for any mysis or pellets. I added another rock to quarantine. If they don't put on some weight and don't show any signs of disease I may cut quarantine short. From what I have read they are very unlikely to have Ich because of their thick slime coat. Can anyone elaborate on that ? Risk vs. reward.



I have dont have any firdt hand experience with that but ive heard that too. I know that they cant handle cooper so avoid that.
 
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