Carpet anemone

[Allmost]

would moon lights over it help with fish not getting eaten by it at night ?

in my old 120, I had 2 green ones, they got too huge and I sold them, but before that they took 2 yellow tangs ! yellow tang used to sleep close to it ... [well Inever watched it eat the fish, but thats the best assumption I can make ...

so would it help ? left on all night ?

interesting thing about carpet anemone shipping ... did you know it is shipped DRY ? lol !!!

I was surprised ! 32 hours of transportation, prety cool !

 

[LesMartin]

interesting thing about carpet anemone shipping ... did you know it is shipped DRY ? lol !!!

I was surprised ! 32 hours of transportation, prety cool !

Probably why so many of them don't make it. They rely on gas exchange across their body and the exporters cram them nice and tight into those small bags............. :headwally:

 

[Allmost]

after asking around, actually that seems to be the best way to ship them ! as they wont release their ..... fouling water and killing themselves ...

but I dont know ... I was prety surprised ... I thought there was a hole in the bag haha

the anemone is prety healthy though, and very sticky.

 

[LesMartin]

Yeah, that's the commonly held belief. But you've got to ask yourself if giganteas and magnificas require fairly vigorous water movement ( presumably for gas exchange ? ) in the aquarium then how much do they get crammed into those bags. I could be completely wrong of course but it just doesn't make sense to me. And we wonder why it's SOOOO difficult to get hold of a healthy mag or gigantea......

 

[Toddrtrex]

IMO/E, moonlights do not matter -- have had fish eaten by mine in tanks that had moonlights and ones that didn't.

It almost seems that certain S. haddonis are more apt to eat fish. I had a tan one for 12+ years that never ate a fish, and yet had a green stripe one eat fish within a week of being in the tank.

 

[AD87]

after asking around, actually that seems to be the best way to ship them ! as they wont release their ..... fouling water and killing themselves ...

but I dont know ... I was prety surprised ... I thought there was a hole in the bag haha

the anemone is prety healthy though, and very sticky.

Can i ask what supplier shipped them dry? I have asked in the past and was declined to ship my anemones dry.

 

[BonsaiNut]

Yeah, that's the commonly held belief. But you've got to ask yourself if giganteas and magnificas require fairly vigorous water movement ( presumably for gas exchange ? ) in the aquarium then how much do they get crammed into those bags. I could be completely wrong of course but it just doesn't make sense to me. And we wonder why it's SOOOO difficult to get hold of a healthy mag or gigantea......

Yeah Les, it does sound strange, but it may actually be the best way to ship them. Clown anemones have adapted to be able to survive extended periods of low tide where they are out of water and in full tropical sunlight. Water is less important in these cases than "just enough" water to keep them wet, and plenty of oxygen. "Cramming" them into bags full of anemones is NOT good - you still want one anemone per bag with lots of void space. But an anemone with little water and lots of oxygen will DEFINITELY ship better than an anemone with little oxygen and lots of water.

The one reservation here is heat management. Water can be a nice heat sink and a cooler with lots of water is easy to maintain stable temp in than a cooler without.

I am busy right now but later today I will try to post some scientific articles about intertidal anemone biology.

 

[BonsaiNut]

Here are some photos of "dry" anemones in the wild. Note that unlike some tidal anemones, H. magnifica and S. gigantea do not have the ability to form a protective ball - they just lie open on the rocks like burst water balloons. They do not seem any worse for wear when the next tide comes.

... and a "dry" mertensii:

...and some low tide S. haddoni:

 

[LesMartin]

Thanks for taking the time to post those photos. Another day, something new.... :beer:

 

[bradleym]

Whoa.

I didn't know they were routinely exposed during low tides, so those pics were completely unexpected. Thanks for sharing.

 

[BonsaiNut]

Whoa.

I didn't know they were routinely exposed during low tides, so those pics were completely unexpected. Thanks for sharing.

Not always, but sometimes. Sand anemones will usually pull under the sand. BTA's and crispas seem to me to be deeper water anemones in general. But magnificas, haddonis, giganteas - they are often exposed at extreme low tides.

 

[this is me]

I wonder when they collect them, do they collect them when it's low tide(definitely seem a lot easier) or when they're underwater.

 

[jimmy frag]

i,v always recieved my anemones dry and also my zoas from both indo and red sea. they arrive much healthier and recovery time is minimal

 

[Tmoriarty]

From what I have read the reason they ship better dry is because when they are removed from the water they "shut down". Some people have started shipping them dry to force this shut down to occur, preventing the fouling of the water. They do leave them with a little water in the bag normally to keep the nem moist.

If they are shipped with water, after temp acclimating them (with a closed bag, not open) open the bag to start drip acclimating. What I have done with my last two nems is checked the ammonia as soon as the bag is opened, if its anything dangerous they go in the tank after no more then 10 minutes, if its good then I drip acclimate for longer.

I lost my first nem from LA (It was half inside out in the bag before opening it). What I found is that in the water they foul rather quickly, if there is ammonia in the water they quickly get even worse. The second nem I got from LA was not doing good either... I checked the ammonia and it was already high, I got it in the tank within 10 minutes. The nem started out small with a gapping mouth but within 6 hours had already changed out its water and reinflated. That same nem has stayed put for over a month and is pretty healthy.

Just my two cents and what I have read and experienced so far.

Tyler

 

[marc price]

Not always, but sometimes. Sand anemones will usually pull under the sand. BTA's and crispas seem to me to be deeper water anemones in general. But magnificas, haddonis, giganteas - they are often exposed at extreme low tides.

Yes that's about right, sometimes haddoni is found in deeper water, mags too.

Good find on the exposed mertens pic, i haven't come across one of them before.

 

[this is me]

I wonder if I should drain all the water in the tank to simulate the low tide effect every now and then for my giganteas and haddoni. Not sure if the RBTA will like it though.