collecting in hawaii

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7326299#post7326299 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pactrop

LIVE ROCK: Unlawful to take, break, or damage, with any implement, any rock or coral to which marine life is visibly attached.

Any rules for placing lace rock in the water to "seed" it. Does it then become live rock and then become illegal to take back out? Seem like that "visibly attached" phrase could be a little loop hole if you just wanted decent live rock for a fish only tank.

Ed
 
Great question. It is illegal to do that also. Here comes the good part. There are special permits you can get but the MAC certified rock but it isnt cheap. I can have it shipped to you for about $6 per lb landed for a 45 lb box.
But that still leaves our friend piranhaking with no chance of going diving in Hawaii and seeing a nice rock and saying to himself. "I would love to have that in my aquarium" and then actually taking it. he will still have to buy it. that just isnt the same.
 
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Regardless of Hawaii law, federal law makes it illegal to transport stoney corals harvested in US waters over state lines. They don't play around with this. If a federal agent catches you, you better open your check book.
 
the fish in hawaii are 1000x more beautiful than the corals.....man i would love to go catch a couplke awesome specimens and bring em home!
 
I don't have a "store" but I do sell fish to the public. If you are in Hawaii give me a call and you can stop by and see my facility and pick up some fish.

And to reply to an earlier post. No you can't take the coral that washes up on the beach. There are some technicalities that let you get some dead coral but in Hawaii you will be hard pressed to find a person that didn't look down on you for taking live coral.

Like the EAGLES said, the fish here are 100X better looking than our corals and the corals that we do have are pretty scarce.

Pretty much all the reef tanks I have seen on RC have fairy tale reef setups. you will never see anything like that here.
 
the dead coral that washes up is what i was refering to, and yes, you can take it. I got that straight from the dlnr site.

http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/dar/library/coral_liverock.htm

The taking of sand, coral rubble or other marine deposits is permitted in certain circumstances. The material may not exceed one gallon per person per day, and may be taken only for personal, noncommercial purposes
 
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The coral they are refering to that can be taken is only from above the high tide water line and that leaves pretty much just sand. By all means help yourself to the bucket of sand.

Pirahnaking are you in Hawaii?
 
I have a friend who has collected large peices of completely dead and rock on the shore in Maui. He just put about 100lbs into two plastic bins and checked them as luggage on his way home. No one said a thing. The pieces are really uniqe and very porous. It was added to his tank and then became live.
If any of you catch those sweet fish with a net, let me know how as I would love to collect some fish... I hope you can swim fast!
I go to Maui every year and plan to bring some dead dry rock back next fall.
 
I was just on Oahu and wanted to get some fish there. I found GREAT prices at the one fish store I was able to visit, but was unable to find licensed collectors in the yellow pages. I ended up not getting any because our flight left before the store opened last Monday.

You need to also check your airline regarding whether you can carry aquatic cargo...United was ok with it. Some are apparently jerks. Everything goes through the agricultural scanners and the baggage check scanners so they will most likely know if you try to smuggle anything. And deservedly, given the problems that irresponsible people cause the environment, the fine is a suggested $100,000. I suggest a store receipt be handy when you go to leave.
 
Hawaii?

Hawaii?

better looking than our corals and the corals that we do have are pretty scarce.

No Corals in Hawaii? Not a good place to dive for reefs?? lol I cannot believe someplace as remote as Hawaii doesnt have dive sites with great corals and fish. I find that truly hard to believe. I found a few coral sites in the Carribean, how is it that Hawaii doesn't? Unless I am mistaking that statement, for particularly Oahu. I have heard that some of the smaller island have amazing dive sites, even Kauai.

Just my two cents.
David
 
haha

haha

No, your just under the impression I have never dove or seen an actual reef, lol. Sadly, Steve Weast's tank is not South Pacific specific in his coral selections. He has some Carribean collected Staghorn in his tank. I don't think anyone who dives, would assume to find Heniochus Butterfly on the same dive as Atlantic tangs, and so forth. They all come from differing parts of the ocean. Thus, I understand fully well, just don't assume your audience is unaware, as we all know what "Assume," truly means. So in the same vein; "Rico, Grandma just called and wants you leave, as your ruining everyone's life."

cheers
David:lol:
 
calm down and go watch your fish.

I think you might be going a little overboard here. my post stated "Pretty much all the reef tanks I have seen on RC have fairy tale reef setups. you will never see anything like that here."

I think that covers your whole last post fairly well. and I am not assuming my audience is unaware as you say. It might actually be that you are assuming I am unaware. So take it easy and stop getting so critical. I believe everyone but you understood what I was saying.
 
The only corals found in Hawaii are cauliflower coral and mostly red or pink. On Oahu there isn't a dive spot that really makes you go "what was incredible" or "so many nice corals and colors".. Maui or molakai is the place to go for reefs. Kuaui is nice to. Oahu really is terrible for coral. there are some beautiful fish though. So Pactrop is right in saying you will never find a nice reef. Go to tonga, fiji, or somewhere over in that area if you like corals :)
 
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