Collecting

cb747

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Anyone ever go collecting in the Rockaways? I just bought a seine net recently and want to try it out soon :) Ive heard good things about collecting tropicals in the Rockaways but have no clue where!
 
hey Chris try by the Rockaway bridge..strong currents in and out of the bays to the ocean and bring a pole with some clam belly..good stripper fishing there.
 
i used to get a lot of butterfly fish and even a few lookdowns in the sein nets by moriches inlet. kinda far from you, but you can get a lot of cool stuff out here.
 
That is a hike but perhaps a day trip could work :)
Anyone else know of any western collection areas besides the Rockaways?
 
Chris,
I collected for many years south of a marina on Flatbush Ave, just south of the Belt Pkwy, we used to call that area "Dead Horse Bay". I don't recall the marina name, but its the only one there.
You have to go at low tide, don't bother at high tide. Lots of great tropicals there. Still too cold for the tropicals, but other local stuff will be there now. Some extra lead weights will also help in that area.
Just watch your net dimensions, etc. There are permits involved with certain larger size nets (both length and depth of net), but I don't recall the cut offs for "no permit" nets
 
Thanks Joe ill have to do a little snooping and see if i can find the marina. Ill also have to do a little research on the net as well. My net is 17 feet by 3.5 feet. I figured id try for tropicals around the end of August or beginning of September. I appreciate the info! :)
 
Billsreef turned me on to a spot not too far from the old OBI. Ocean PKWY is a nice ride in the early morning in early Sept. Let me know, I'll tell you exactly where. I might even want to go with you :D
 
Yeh its amazing what gets caught in the current at the end of the Summer. I used to go diving in the flats in the Great South Bay and there would be Butterfly Fish, Triggers and Sea Horses.
 
Larry come with me when the time gets near :)
d4a2nok ive heard of seahorses showing up but ill be darned if i can remember where it was. Maybe it was there! Im sure theres lots of great spots all over the south shore. I just need to find them but im off to a good start so far :) I wonder if any kind of tropicals make there way to the North shore. I do remember finding pipe fish in Hempstead Harbor once.
 
You'll get tropicals on the North Shore as well, just not as many.
The pipefish are a local species and not a Gulf Stream rider.
Seahorses are a local species as well (same species as found along the entire east coast-not sure what their northern range is though).
More importantly, seahorses in NY are now protected by NYSDEC and you must have a permit to collect them, otherwise the fine is a hefty one if found with seahorses.
I think if your net is under 20' and 4' deep, you should be ok, but its worth double checking it. If I find anything, I'll let you know.

I once had a school of about 100 doctorfish (tangs) swim past while diving Shinnecock Bay and last year we had a guy in Greenport with a 6' tarpon in his pound net :eek:
Joe
 
ive caught doctor fish as well. i caught one about 6 or 7 years ago that was blue, not sure if it was an atlantic blue. im gunna look around and see if i have any pics.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10159165#post10159165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justjoe
More importantly, seahorses in NY are now protected by NYSDEC and you must have a permit to collect them, otherwise the fine is a hefty one if found with seahorses.

I know I heard some folks were pushing for this, but I never heard it had become reality. Can't find any mention of it on DEC's website either. If in indeed they have enacted a ban on seahorse collection, they need to actually get the word out to the general public.
 
im pretty sure it was on the news sometime last summer. i used to get them all the time, but we dont even go for them anymore because you need a permit of some type.
 
I wouldnt even keep any sea horses. Id much rather buy CB instead of taking them from the wild. I never knew they along with pipe fish were native to our waters. I bought my net mainly to catch silversides for my anemones and eels and to use for bait when i go fishing but figured as long as i have it i might as well see what else i can come up with :) Im pretty psyched now!
 
Hey I went out diving yesterday. I caught 5 snowflake groupers, very pretty ones. I saw 3 spotfin butterflies and 1 banded butterfly. they were all very small so I didn't bother catching them. I still amazes me to be swiming along w/ seabass, blackfish and other locals and there are brightly colored butterflies that stick out like a sore thumb.
 
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