Cryptocaryon Irritans - tank transfer method

[Nina51]

thanks, steve!

 

[lagatbezan]

Hey Steve, to be on a really safe side I did the tt for 3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3 (9 times). Do you feel 14 days after is sufficient for observation?

 

[Allmost]

Thanks I started using a 10G glass tank and a 5 G bucket ... decided to do 2 days in bucket, 3 days in glass tank so I can observe as well.[buckets are much easier to sterilize for me] but so far, its prety impossible to tell if the fish is eating looking at it from the top.

 

[snorvich]

Hey Steve, to be on a really safe side I did the tt for 3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3x3 (9 times). Do you feel 14 days after is sufficient for observation?

Yes. I am anal about having 28 days after a fish is received since the fish may have been coming from an environment where a non-therapeutic dose of copper is being run. That copper can mask velvet (and ich, but you have eliminated ich from the picture with TT)

 

[lagatbezan]

Thanks. One last thing, I was wondering does TT mask some of the symptoms of other diseases/parasites? Like would you still notice if the fish has velvet/brook? or is it not visible because the water is constantly being change not giving it time to manifest itself.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks. One last thing, I was wondering does TT mask some of the symptoms of other diseases/parasites? Like would you still notice if the fish has velvet/brook? or is it not visible because the water is constantly being change not giving it time to manifest itself.

No, tank transfer does not mask any other parasites (assuming you do not use water which has copper in it)

 

[Zbreefer]

Steve, I just completed the last tank transfer, and the clown pair is now in my cycled QT. I plan to do two rounds of Prazi per your recommendation. My question is, do I need to do a water change between each round? If so, what % water change do you recommend?

Also, I should remove the carbon bag from my hang on back filter, correct?

Thanks in advance, ZB

 

[w3ish3ng]

I had read this thread with much interests, as I'm currently located in Singapore where hot and humid weather is the norm.

Therefore I would like to ask about using ttm with small tec chiller with a Ehiem compact 300 for 10 gallon tank. For the cleaning part, if I drain off the old water and mix a 1:10 ratio of vinegar and ro/di solution into the tank and run it for 1-2 hours before setting it out to dry for the next 48hours, will that be sufficient?

As I am totally unsure about how to rinse and dry the pump together with the tec chiller.

 

[Spar]

Steve, I just completed the last tank transfer, and the clown pair is now in my cycled QT. I plan to do two rounds of Prazi per your recommendation. My question is, do I need to do a water change between each round? If so, what % water change do you recommend?

Also, I should remove the carbon bag from my hang on back filter, correct?

Thanks in advance, ZB

A water change isn't required but is always helpful. 25% or so will do. Yes remove any carbon during treatment.

 

[Spar]

I had read this thread with much interests, as I'm currently located in Singapore where hot and humid weather is the norm.

Therefore I would like to ask about using ttm with small tec chiller with a Ehiem compact 300 for 10 gallon tank. For the cleaning part, if I drain off the old water and mix a 1:10 ratio of vinegar and ro/di solution into the tank and run it for 1-2 hours before setting it out to dry for the next 48hours, will that be sufficient?

As I am totally unsure about how to rinse and dry the pump together with the tec chiller.

IMO that is going to complicate things being such a hard device to ensure is completely cleaned and dried.

How hot do you estimate the water will get during the day? Fish can handle warmer temps you just need to ensure adequately oxygenated water is happening. Keep in mind you won't have lights over it or other excessive pumps heating the water.

 

[w3ish3ng]

Temperature should be hovering around 29 to 30 degree Celsius. Another option is to place them in air conditioned room of say 26 degree Celsius for the 12 days duration. After which I will place them in a qt with chiller. Will this be workable?

 

[snorvich]

Temperature should be hovering around 29 to 30 degree Celsius. Another option is to place them in air conditioned room of say 26 degree Celsius for the 12 days duration. After which I will place them in a qt with chiller. Will this be workable?

Air conditioning should work fine. Singapore is the most consistently hot and humid place I have ever been. Great City/State, however!

 

[w3ish3ng]

Air conditioning should work fine. Singapore is the most consistently hot and humid place I have ever been. Great City/State, however!

Thanks steve! Will definitely give this a try once I set back into the hobby, a wipeout got me leaving this hobby earlier and I do not wish to repeat it again.

P.s I had actually tried to send you a massage for your advice on qt procedures but apparently I can't get it across.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks steve! Will definitely give this a try once I set back into the hobby, a wipeout got me leaving this hobby earlier and I do not wish to repeat it again.

P.s I had actually tried to send you a massage for your advice on qt procedures but apparently I can't get it across.

Unfortunately, I no longer accept private messages due to the volume I was receiving. I simply could not keep up which was unfair to the persons asking questions. I do try to answer as many questions "in the threads" as possible, however.

 

[w3ish3ng]

Unfortunately, I no longer accept private messages due to the volume I was receiving. I simply could not keep up which was unfair to the persons asking questions. I do try to answer as many questions "in the threads" as possible, however.

In that case, I will just post my queries here then. So here it goes..

May I know apart from ttm and parzipro treatment, is there any another preventive medicine that you will advocate?

I had read your blog entry on medicines one should have on hand and would love yo have your advise on chloroquine phosphate, will this be an better alternative to copper? Will there be any adverse after effect on my qt and equipment upon wc and usage of carbon to leech the medicine content?

Lastly, is there any procedure or medicine list that is designed for deepsea species especially with regards to swim bladders and decompression issue.

Thanks!

 

[snorvich]

In that case, I will just post my queries here then. So here it goes..

May I know apart from ttm and parzipro treatment, is there any another preventive medicine that you will advocate?

I do not advocate any preventative treatments except TT and Prazipro. There are several reasons for that.

I had read your blog entry on medicines one should have on hand and would love yo have your advise on chloroquine phosphate, will this be an better alternative to copper?

I think for velvet chloroquine phosphate (CP) is the treatment of choice assuming you can get pure CP and for this parasite is likely to be more effective than copper.

Will there be any adverse after effect on my qt and equipment upon wc and usage of carbon to leech the medicine content?

No. But remember that CP is affected by light, especially UV so that would be contraindicated.

Lastly, is there any procedure or medicine list that is designed for deepsea species especially with regards to swim bladders and decompression issue. Not that I am aware of. Best decompression technique is gradually acclimating, but most collectors seem to pin the fish instead which is less time consuming.

Thanks!

 

[w3ish3ng]

thanks for your input. Do you think there is any benefits for putting in carbon during the ttm to absorb the organic waste to battle ammonia? Likewise, carbon will be discard, filter bag will be soak, rinse and dry like the rest of equipment.

 

[snorvich]

thanks for your input. Do you think there is any benefits for putting in carbon during the ttm to absorb the organic waste to battle ammonia? Likewise, carbon will be discard, filter bag will be soak, rinse and dry like the rest of equipment.

No. Since a fish is in a given cycle for a short time, simply use Prime or equivalent for ammonia relief. While the tank transfer protocol as written is 3x3x3x3 it would work equally well as 2x2x2x2x2x2. Ammonia can be obviated easily. But prime can not be used with any chemical that is copper based.

 

[EnderTurtle]

Here is how I did my tank transfer.

Day 1 Transferred to new tank at night
Day 3 Transferred to new tank morning
Day 6 Transferred to new tank at morning
Day 8 I noticed yellow tang had a white spot on its pectoral fin
Day 9 Transferred to new tank at morning. Yellow tang still has white spot on pectoral fin.

Have I done anything wrong? I soaked the filter in a bleach/water solution and stirred it around for at least 15 minuets and then rinsed with tap water before drying with paper towel. Then I put it in the tank.

Other than that no equipment was reused.

Whats up with the ich spot? Why is he here? Is it just a stubborn ich?

 

[Spar]

If it is a single, somewhat larger, white spot near a fin, then it very likely could be lympho rather than ich. Do some searches for pictures of lympho and compare. It is a non-threatening virus that will go away on its own with good husbandry (vitamins and clean water the two main methods).