Cubed & Squared

[biggles]

I like all three of those acros Bello, especially the red milli :thumbsup: They're all looking pretty healthy so you're doing better than you think mate considering you have those little sh*ts in the tank too. I'm very sure that the health of your acros will see them hold their own against the AEFW until you eradicate them altogether so i hope you keep feeding the tank mate.
I want you to bare in mind something in regards to your colors. I have always observed that stressed corals release slime and who knows what into the water when constantly irritated and if you have quite a few doing this they will effect all the acros in the tank even though some have no infection. Even the acros not showing AEFW will be stressed to some extent from the chemicals being released by the irritated acros so i wouldn't be surprised if that's not a factor in your colors not being what you want them to be. Maybe some carbon might be worth a try for a few weeks if you're not already running it. Just giving you some stuff to think about mate.

More pics please buddy and take them with your clothes on please..........

 

[Fail_sh3d]

Best of luck with the AEFWs.

Have you decided what route of nuclear you'll be going?

Type of dip? Frequency? Etc ?

 

[sahin]

Bello mate, watch this video, have a laugh and then fight them bastard AEFW's:
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Good luck with the fight with them. PM me if you need any advice/help. Actually, what are you going ti be dipping with? Do you have Revive/CoralRx/Bayer?

 

[biggles]

Hahaha Sahin, laughed from start to end mate. :lol2: I love the bit where they drop the news and he just fumes silently lol - priceless stuff.
Bello - no mercy mate :uzi:

 

[Bello]

Thanks guys for all your support :thumbsup:

So here's the plan, lemme know what you think

1. Move ALL corals onto eggcrate/frag plugs
2. Move ALL rock from DT into sump, where there's very little light
3. Dip twice a week for 4 weeks, then once a week for 2 weeks. Total 6 weeks. Dipping to be done with Revive/RO mixed with tank water at 15ppt (if I run out of Revive)

Is there any reason to move the Live rock elsewhere, say a small QT? I can't setup a big enough QT to accommodate all the corals, so will have to dip and replace in display.

Any other tips?

BTW, I watched that video, it's hilarious, and now it's time :angryfire:

 

[Fail_sh3d]

Thanks guys for all your support :thumbsup:

So here's the plan, lemme know what you think

1. Move ALL corals onto eggcrate/frag plugs
2. Move ALL rock from DT into sump, where there's very little light
3. Dip twice a week for 4 weeks, then once a week for 2 weeks. Total 6 weeks. Dipping to be done with Revive/RO mixed with tank water at 15ppt (if I run out of Revive)

Is there any reason to move the Live rock elsewhere, say a small QT? I can't setup a big enough QT to accommodate all the corals, so will have to dip and replace in display.

Any other tips?

BTW, I watched that video, it's hilarious, and now it's time :angryfire:

In my experience, I had no need to do anything other than dip the frags affected for 4 weeks. Twice a week.

The live rock shouldn't be an issue if the corals are removed. If they are encrusted, that may be a hurdle.

I think Revive is killer. I completely contribute my eradication of the bastards with Revive.

I never tried the FW dips out of fear that it may be too harsh on my terribly stressed corals.

6 weeks is a great failsafe.

I think your plan sounds great.

 

[sahin]

Thanks guys for all your support :thumbsup:

So here's the plan, lemme know what you think

1. Move ALL corals onto eggcrate/frag plugs
2. Move ALL rock from DT into sump, where there's very little light
3. Dip twice a week for 4 weeks, then once a week for 2 weeks. Total 6 weeks. Dipping to be done with Revive/RO mixed with tank water at 15ppt (if I run out of Revive)

Is there any reason to move the Live rock elsewhere, say a small QT? I can't setup a big enough QT to accommodate all the corals, so will have to dip and replace in display.

Any other tips?

BTW, I watched that video, it's hilarious, and now it's time :angryfire:

Revive works very well. But has been reported to kill smooth-skinned acros at times. So with those type of SPS maybe go lighter on the concentration.

With the rocks, as long as they are placed in darkness for a few weeks, it will kill of any SPS coral remnants, and the AEFW should die off due to starvation anyway.

If you have trouble getting hold of Revive, then PM me, I can always send out a bottle from here.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[Bello]

In my experience, I had no need to do anything other than dip the frags affected for 4 weeks. Twice a week.

The live rock shouldn't be an issue if the corals are removed. If they are encrusted, that may be a hurdle.

I think Revive is killer. I completely contribute my eradication of the bastards with Revive.

I never tried the FW dips out of fear that it may be too harsh on my terribly stressed corals.

6 weeks is a great failsafe.

I think your plan sounds great.

Thanks buddy :thumbsup:

I'm beginning to wonder if ONCE a week will be enough as well? I fear I may not have enough Revive left over. Just finished prepping the Acro DT, and I'm exhausted.

Plus, with the amount of coral I have, twice a week would be insanely tiring

Revive works very well. But has been reported to kill smooth-skinned acros at times. So with those type of SPS maybe go lighter on the concentration.

With the rocks, as long as they are placed in darkness for a few weeks, it will kill of any SPS coral remnants, and the AEFW should die off due to starvation anyway.

If you have trouble getting hold of Revive, then PM me, I can always send out a bottle from here.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the generous offer :thumbsup:, really awesome of you

I have about 250ml of Revive left, and was thus wondering if ONCE a week for 6 weeks would be enough? I'll try and order some, and have them FedEx it if possible.

Will be moving ALL the rock into the sump and now empty frag tank, and kept in total darkness.

Just did the Acro DT, moved all corals onto racks. Will do the other tank tomorrow and hopefully start dipping by Thursday

 

[sahin]

4 (roughly 10 mls) capfuls will make about 4litres of dipping solution (ie 4 caps into 4 litres of clean mixed saltwater).

I have no idea how many corals you have...but 4 litres of dipping water seems like lots to me...I only use like 400ml of dipping water etc for dipping my corals, that will allow me to dip like 3-5 frags.

It depends on what corals you have and how much slime they produce. I wouldnt start to dip unless you have enough...and it doesnt sound like enough. I think you need another 500ml bottle on top of the 250ml to get you through this.

 

[biggles]

I know it must be a huge pain in the arse moving everything around mate but the way you've described should see you pest free. Just make sure the rock is light starved so there's nothing for those little bastards to munch on as Sahin said.
These next couple of months will set you up for the long term and it will be nothing more than a bad memory in 12 months when i'm slagging all your colorful acros - and you know i will Bello Test the dip with green acros before you dip any of the real ones you're babysitting for me......:reading:

 

[Bello]

4 (roughly 10 mls) capfuls will make about 4litres of dipping solution (ie 4 caps into 4 litres of clean mixed saltwater).

I have no idea how many corals you have...but 4 litres of dipping water seems like lots to me...I only use like 400ml of dipping water etc for dipping my corals, that will allow me to dip like 3-5 frags.

It depends on what corals you have and how much slime they produce. I wouldnt start to dip unless you have enough...and it doesnt sound like enough. I think you need another 500ml bottle on top of the 250ml to get you through this.

The plan was to use about 40ml-50ml per session, by filling a small tub with 5 litres of water. That way I'd be able to drop in some frag racks, and dip the larger colonies as well.

Here's what I have to dip,



and



Even like this, I expect to spend 3-4 hours per sesssion of dipping . Do you theorize, that the sliming of acros dipped initially, makes the dip less potent when dipping acros towards the end?

I'll be putting in an order today for 3 more bottles of Revive, along with a couple minor things for the tanks, these should come in next week. I have enough to begin till they arrive. So it begins tomorrow :angryfire:

I know it must be a huge pain in the arse moving everything around mate but the way you've described should see you pest free. Just make sure the rock is light starved so there's nothing for those little bastards to munch on as Sahin said.
These next couple of months will set you up for the long term and it will be nothing more than a bad memory in 12 months when i'm slagging all your colorful acros - and you know i will Bello Test the dip with green acros before you dip any of the real ones you're babysitting for me......:reading:

Thanks biggles, I hate the idea at the moment, but I guess it's best in the long run. Have moved all rock into the frag tank/sump, shut the lights off. While rearranging the corals, I already found a batch of nasty eggs, so the bastards are out there :angryfire:

You know I love my greens :lol:, here's a pic from a rack kept in the frag tank, at possibly longish light periods, with only cool whites & royal blue leds. As you can see, they've all morphed...any theories on this?


And don't worry, still got a couple of the real ones for you....lol

 

[biggles]

Firstly, let's all admire the huge disgusting black turd that Bello insists on keeping in his bloody display......... i know you all think it's gross so how about you all confirm that it has to go rather than leaving the nasty work to me - i hate being blunt as you know........

Most acro slime floats so you could just scoop it off the top with a bit of cloth like i use to filter the water occasionally whenever it becomes built up. Sahin will know more i'm sure as i have bugger all experience with dips unless they're edible.

A lot of those frags under the blue white LED's look faded and colorless just as occurs over time in my sump. I did have a green acro that stayed green in there at one stage but who cares. Purples went dark greyish and SSC turned flesh colored, the list goes on. What do you see with your eyes mate as it's hard to tell from pics. Those green frags seem very green but are they also growing like the green under the fuller spectrum display lighting.

Damn i want both the acros in that last pic, both are awesome so don't go stressing them out on me mate. :hammer: I can see why the job is so daunting now Bello, that's a lot of bloody acros to deal with mate but they're all looking in good shape and will get through the process i'm sure. :thumbsup:

 

[Bello]

To be honest, I didn't really rig the led lights in the frag tank very well. It's some crap combination on an experimental basis.

The ones that are brightly green in the pic, are actually green and look the same in the display. BUT, the others (many of them) that are lightish green with brown polyps, were blues, pinks and purples.... so they've either browned or greened out... the only factor here is lighting . Either way, they're all extras obviously, but it'll be interesting to see if they color back once I'm done with this nonsense.

I'm working on giving away the turds, but it seems that no one wants turds in their tank...how strange?

 

[biggles]

Trust me mate, once you have them under decent lighting they'll all color back up.
Send the black turds to Troub on the condition he puts them into the bloody display !

 

[sahin]

What the ****&&"^"£*"**"* !!!!!!!!

You been telling us you got brown turds and now I see this!!!!!!!

I dont think your lighting is as bad a Biggles's Blue and White Xmas lights he has rigged over his sump frag tank. :lol:

Bloomin heck mate, if you get those damn f@kin AEFW's sorted you WILL have WAAAAAY better colours than me...even now I reckon your colours are better than mine...I think you have a crappy camera. :rollface:

Get with killing them AEFW's and be posting some serious eye candy in a couple of months time!

 

[jroovers]

Sounds like a major PITA. I admire your commitment to eradicating these a-holes. Biggles is right, that does look like a deuce. That said, those corals in your pics look pretty darn good color wise here too!

 

[sahin]

Bello dude..what are those dark lump like mass at the front...kinda looks like... :lol:

 

[jroovers]

Its Mr. Hankey!

 

[Bello]

I did my first Dip session last night. Took me 4 and 45 min of nonstop dipping. Dipped EVERY SINGLE DAMN CORAL in the tanks, yes, that means Monti's, Seri's, Stylo's, Pocci's as well. Will only do it like this once more, the rest will be only Acro dips. Figured if there were any other pests, now'd be a good time to just dip 'em all.

How many AEFW's found? Buggerall!!!.... I did dip almost all acros 3 weeks ago, so that's probably it. Did find a few clutches of eggs when prepping for the dip, that's it. Anyways, better safe than sorry..........

Trust me mate, once you have them under decent lighting they'll all color back up.
Send the black turds to Troub on the condition he puts them into the bloody display !

Troub, you reading this? Free turds, come and get your free turds :lol:. They've browned out a bit after the dip, hopefully should be ok

What the ****&&"^"£*"**"* !!!!!!!!

You been telling us you got brown turds and now I see this!!!!!!!

I dont think your lighting is as bad a Biggles's Blue and White Xmas lights he has rigged over his sump frag tank.

Bloomin heck mate, if you get those damn f@kin AEFW's sorted you WILL have WAAAAAY better colours than me...even now I reckon your colours are better than mine...I think you have a crappy camera.

Get with killing them AEFW's and be posting some serious eye candy in a couple of months time!

Thanks Sahin , I'm pretty sure that my led's are a bit better than biggles's sump lights...They'd better be!!! I have a few ugly brown ones, but quite a few with great color IMO, and that's why I was so hesitant to dip like this. I'm just praying that once this damn session gets over, I don't see those bastards again.....ever!!!! Think I've covered all bases with the procedure, but I guess will only be sure once this is done.

Sounds like a major PITA. I admire your commitment to eradicating these a-holes. Biggles is right, that does look like a deuce. That said, those corals in your pics look pretty darn good color wise here too!

Thanks Jordan, now if only I could learn to take pics 25% as well as you do . I wouldn't call it commitment, more like desperation and fear . I know that if I don't do this, there's a good chance I may lose them, and then there's an even better chance that it'll then take me a couple years, and a lot of money to get those frags again.... Sigh........

Bello dude..what are those dark lump like mass at the front...kinda looks like...

Its Mr. Hankey!

Mr Hankey, the Christmas Poo.... :lol:...South Park FTW! So it looks like the jury has spoken, the turds will have to go . Hopefully I'll find a new home for them soon. Have had them for about 3-4 years now. Feeling sentimental, since one of those turds was hand caught by my wife, while on holiday :lol:. I refuse to touch those nasties :lol:

Truth be told, I was on the verge of removing them soon anyway. They're best used with finer sand. If using larger grains, like the KZ sand I'm using, their excrement tends to clump together, which unlike the fine sand, doesn't break down with the flow, creating homemade bio turd balls. Ugh!!

 

[biggles]

So you now have black turds making white turds in your SPS display - i really worry about you sometimes Bello.........:crazy1:
The guys are quite right btw mate, your colors are so much better than they were 6-8 months ago. Because it happens gradually you don't see it in your own tank but your acros really are looking cool now and considering they're all stressed from the AEFW i'm certain everything will pop for you once you get through the removal process. :uzi:
Did your mate end up having any success with the RO dips Bello.