jedimasterben
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The dip won't kill any of them - nor will it kill any of your problem dinoflagellates that are inside your coral at the time that will be excreted later.
Dinoflagellates.
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Then, how can we prevent this dinos from entering in the aquarium? Is there any dip or way to keep them away?
sh8g8delik
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Yea this is very disheartening. Does this mean we'll have to chalk all the livestock and corals up as a loss? For fear of contaminating a new startup tank?
Aquarist007
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Can someone post or repost pics of Dino's in your tank. IMO that's very important to know the algae you have is Dino's before deciding on a treatment
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codyreed29
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Well **** if dinos aren't killed by freshwater dipping I have already ****ed a brand new tank setup. My qt and other qt have the dinos.
If this was ebola or a vombie attack id be dead LOL.
If this was ebola or a vombie attack id be dead LOL.
jedimasterben
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I think you misunderstood what I said lol. I was talking about the zooxanthellae in the corals, a FW dip won't get to them, they're protected by the coral, but any problem dinos inside any coral at the time will also be safe, which sucks
codyreed29
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Well damn they are in both my qt tanks. I guess i'm going to start over a new tank for qt and keep only the fish I have, pause all my corals I have now are not going into my new tank. Wonder if I can sell them off or something. I also have three nems and two urchins that have dinos on them.
Pants
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I think you misunderstood what I said lol. I was talking about the zooxanthellae in the corals, a FW dip won't get to them, they're protected by the coral, but any problem dinos inside any coral at the time will also be safe, which sucks
Symbiodinium (Zooxanthellae) live inside the cells of the animal host. They will be protected. The problem dinos do not form symbiotic relationships with inverts. They won't be protected by the animals. All the problem species you guys are dealing with (at least the one's I've gotten samples from) are free-living benthic species of dinoflagellates.
If you are concerned about the impact the fw dips will have on your livestock, you can use 1/2 strength seawater (15 ppt) instead. That will still instantly lyse the dinos, but may be gentler on your sensitive fish and inverts.
codyreed29
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These things are tank killers im afraid of using anything thats been in the same tank.
Is there proof that freshwater dips work.
Is there proof that freshwater dips work.
sh8g8delik
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I still don't know 100% if its dino or green cyano, but some of the pictures actually look like red cyano.
Sorry for the bad iphone pictures.
Sorry for the bad iphone pictures.
jedimasterben
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Corals are constantly taking in detritus/bacteria/etc, some of it is processed and some of it is just expelled right back out as waste. Corals also take in new symbiodinium this way, and I assume that though they do not harbor these other dinoflagellate species to harvest light that they do take them in only to expel them later, which explains why you can do a freshwater dip and place them into a sterile container and have a bloom happen in short order if conditions are met.
codyreed29
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this is mind blowingly it. I thought freshwater would kill them sounds like a third Qt is in order.
As dip them put them in new tank wait a week see if dinos appear?
I would be [profanity] and quit the hobby if it wasn't for qt. I could only imagine 3 years ago putting everything in the tank at once. Im not missing that nonsense LOL.
As dip them put them in new tank wait a week see if dinos appear?
I would be [profanity] and quit the hobby if it wasn't for qt. I could only imagine 3 years ago putting everything in the tank at once. Im not missing that nonsense LOL.
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jedimasterben
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Freshwater dips (or just a lower or higher salinity dip, like Pants mentioned above) kill the dinoflagellate cells that it can get to. If there are any that it does not touch, it can't hurt them.
Subscribing to this thread. I have joined the fight. Tank is only 3 months old. Boom, I have them long stringy strands. I should be able to start a treatment round of AlgaeX next Saturday. I just wish I knew what else to do. pH is elevated to 8.2-8.45 depending on time of day, running ozone keeping redox as high as I can in this new tank (380-400), starving the fish, trying to run at most five hours of light, adding 5ml/50 gallons of MB7.
DNA
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I have lots of pictures of my tank and I just vent through them.
I started reefkeeping in 2002 and did very good till end of 2005. Corals outgrew the tank and pruning was needed.
In September 2004 I moved and built a new tank. That is when dinos are first noticed from the pictures. An obvious patch on the sand.
A year later the tank was still looking glorious, but that is when it started to go down hill.
Years pass and reefkeeping is just miserable. It was very educational, but no joy.
The dinos don't bloom properly until I restart with dry rock a few years ago.
It was impossible to keep SPS corals healthy and the reason obvious.
Today I still have dions. Most of the sand is covered and about 5% of the rocks.
I thank the best coral growth for years to a new, bigger carbon reactor with much more flow than the old one.
The dinos laid low and were unnoticed for years, but I wonder how much did they have to do with my SPS problems for all this time.
I have lots of pictures of my tank and I just vent through them.
I started reefkeeping in 2002 and did very good till end of 2005. Corals outgrew the tank and pruning was needed.
In September 2004 I moved and built a new tank. That is when dinos are first noticed from the pictures. An obvious patch on the sand.
A year later the tank was still looking glorious, but that is when it started to go down hill.
Years pass and reefkeeping is just miserable. It was very educational, but no joy.
The dinos don't bloom properly until I restart with dry rock a few years ago.
It was impossible to keep SPS corals healthy and the reason obvious.
Today I still have dions. Most of the sand is covered and about 5% of the rocks.
I thank the best coral growth for years to a new, bigger carbon reactor with much more flow than the old one.
The dinos laid low and were unnoticed for years, but I wonder how much did they have to do with my SPS problems for all this time.
