Dinoflagellates.

I run LED's

Funny thing guys; as of this morning I am unable to find a single dino seed. I too samples from cheato, filter socks, scrapings from the wall, etc. I did have some funny spider web looking thing stuck to a birds nest colony, but no dino's in that either.
 
Even if they did eat them. Idk where to get them. They are either eating the dinos or being the host for them. What's everyone's opinion?
 
I've seen some creatures who are eating dinos, and ones that appear to be in a symbiotic relationship with them. I believe they are all hitchhikers but our efforts to keep super clean water hurts their populations.
 
Billybatz9 said:
Sachem stability is what worked for you?
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I have no way of being certain that stability was the magic bullet....but they began dying immediately after I dosed Stability.....I also started feeding heavily and kept the lights off for 36 hours.

These little guys have been multiplying the reef, and they happen to be in seachem as well.

Found in filter sock
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Seachem Stability at 400x. Camera does not show it so well, but they appear very similar to the little guys from the filter sock.
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I think that the flatworm likely had symbionts or some organs showing in the pictures. I agree that we should see dinoflagellates being broken down if they were being consumed. That said, the flatworm could still outcompete the dinoflagellates for food.

The foraminifer video was great! Thanks for the pointer!
 
First off, new people in the thread-my experience isn't typical. I seem to have an especially bad infestation.

I have an all in one, so I don't have a true sump, just a couple of chambers behind the tank. I don't usually light it; I rigged a lamp for the tests. I would try UV but I can't for the life of me figure a way to rig a big enough unit in my aio. There's really no room back there.

Re lights out: Dinos can switch from photosynthesis to predatory behaviour. I either pushed them towards mixotrophy or killed off the non photosynthetic strains, due to extreme selection pressure of multiple lights out periods. I had 2 genera of dinos, the 2nd, some kind of Prorocentrum? hasn't shown up lately.

I agree about severe cases of dinos making the environment so hostile extreme measures are necessary. I did do one 90% water change with 'good' water. It caused a massive dino bloom. I added skimmate 3 times a week for a month.

The new rock was close to 50% of the total rock in the tank. Chaeto from various sources invariably dies off too, but that may be due to not being able to maintain phosphate. I was trying to inoculate microcritters.

I'm currently keeping nitrate at 15 (due to missing a decimal point, never try to calculate anything at 2am), phosphate still undetectable. Green algae is NOT coming back, pods are still absent despite adding multiple batches/species and I'm losing/lost all my Euphyllia. My montis are bleaching out and I didn't see my rock anemone today. I think I may be at a point where I'm going to have to nuke everything with Dino X and start over. I'd really rather not, but my corals are starting to be affected.

blarg!
ivy
 
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Guys, I'm starting to think the algae issue in my tank is Dino. Although I can't be for sure as I've never diagnosed it myself. Could someone please help me?

I would say as of now 35-40% of my tank is starting to be over run. I made a dent a few months back but I just can't win.

Maybe just a proper algae ID and then I can find the proper remedy.

Thanks




 
I'm not advocating a 'new saltwater' water change.

I'm considering a 'good tank export' water change. You don't want clean water, you want someone else's dirty water.
 
karimwassef said:
I'm not advocating a 'new saltwater' water change.

I'm considering a 'good tank export' water change. You don't want clean water, you want someone else's dirty water.
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Right, I did the 90 change with water from a 300 gallon SPS dominant tank that had been up for years. Skimmate from several running tanks also.

ivy
 
FullBoreReefer said:
Yes, give me a few more minutes to upload
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Quiet_Ivy said:
First off, new people in the thread-my experience isn't typical. I seem to have an especially bad infestation.

I have an all in one, so I don't have a true sump, just a couple of chambers behind the tank. I don't usually light it; I rigged a lamp for the tests. I would try UV but I can't for the life of me figure a way to rig a big enough unit in my aio. There's really no room back there.

Re lights out: Dinos can switch from photosynthesis to predatory behaviour. I either pushed them towards mixotrophy or killed off the non photosynthetic strains, due to extreme selection pressure of multiple lights out periods. I had 2 genera of dinos, the 2nd, some kind of Prorocentrum? hasn't shown up lately.

I agree about severe cases of dinos making the environment so hostile extreme measures are necessary. I did do one 90% water change with 'good' water. It caused a massive dino bloom. I added skimmate 3 times a week for a month.

The new rock was close to 50% of the total rock in the tank. Chaeto from various sources invariably dies off too, but that may be due to not being able to maintain phosphate. I was trying to inoculate microcritters.

I'm currently keeping nitrate at 15 (due to missing a decimal point, never try to calculate anything at 2am), phosphate still undetectable. Green algae is NOT coming back, pods are still absent despite adding multiple batches/species and I'm losing/lost all my Euphyllia. My montis are bleaching out and I didn't see my rock anemone today. I think I may be at a point where I'm going to have to nuke everything with Dino X and start over. I'd really rather not, but my corals are starting to be affected.

blarg!
ivy
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Same boat. All my montis are bleaching. No idea why
 
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