Dreaded Ich
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Freed
It's what it's
I have never seen any article or documentation of UV as a proven method of curing or preventing ich. None of the chemistry or biology, or well known disease experts on RC have ever submitted or provided links or articles/documentation that UV is a preventative or cure for ich. If you have links or proof I would love to see it.
ade
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Hippo tangs in general are very prone to ich and keeping water conditions stable will help keep this fish stress-free and its immune system strong. Feeding with garlic helps.
I have never lost a fish to ich and even though I know it can be a killer if nothing is done, as long as you have a stable sytem with a good diet things should clear up. Waiting and see will not cure ich , correct, QT will not cure ich, correct. QT will not correct the stress levels and feeding habbit while in the main tank.
I do not have a QT and that is because I kind of know what to look for when buying a fish.
I always ask how long the fish has been in the store, if it is eating, overall condition of the fish and how it is acting in the tank.
IMO many LPS sell sell fish to people without telling them about the fish. Yes it is also upto us to research the fish that we are buying.
Next you are going to tell us that brissle worms eat healthy clams.
I have never lost a fish to ich and even though I know it can be a killer if nothing is done, as long as you have a stable sytem with a good diet things should clear up. Waiting and see will not cure ich , correct, QT will not cure ich, correct. QT will not correct the stress levels and feeding habbit while in the main tank.
I do not have a QT and that is because I kind of know what to look for when buying a fish.
I always ask how long the fish has been in the store, if it is eating, overall condition of the fish and how it is acting in the tank.
IMO many LPS sell sell fish to people without telling them about the fish. Yes it is also upto us to research the fish that we are buying.
Next you are going to tell us that brissle worms eat healthy clams.
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I guess what Eric might be trying to say is in it can aid in the prevention of ich forming on its own. I guess it can help water clarity more than anything.
Then again, us people that do frequent water changes and take care of our tanks shouldn't be too worried about it. Unless....another fish is introduced with the parasite on it, which had happened in my case.
I just read this from just searching. Seems to me it may be a good preventative method in the future. Certainly couldn't hurt! I read the first few sentences.
http://www.aquariumguys.com/uvsterilizers.html
Then again, us people that do frequent water changes and take care of our tanks shouldn't be too worried about it. Unless....another fish is introduced with the parasite on it, which had happened in my case.
I just read this from just searching. Seems to me it may be a good preventative method in the future. Certainly couldn't hurt! I read the first few sentences.
http://www.aquariumguys.com/uvsterilizers.html
Yeh my water clarity is pretty top notch. I am anal about my water changes weekly and do my tests frequently after my water changes.
I have learned from LFS that it is wise to do your search. I have encountered many things that i have "lived and learned" on. Now that I know the signs of Ich, I will know what to look for when i get future fish. Plus always QT the fish prior to introducing to main tank.
Freed
It's what it's
Aquariumguys are only trying to sell you a product so they are biased about what they try to sell you.
Experts on RC are not trying to sell you anything so they are not biased over one product or method over another. They are here to help you and not make money off of you. Your call.
Experts on RC are not trying to sell you anything so they are not biased over one product or method over another. They are here to help you and not make money off of you. Your call.
ade
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OK so you are telling us that QT by itself is going to cure ich.
Yes I do have xray because I see right through you. You have read all there is and that makes you a fishician.
I do not state to know everything about this hobby, I have spent enough money on it and read enough to make my own opinion. I did not state that garlic is the cure all method, IMO it boosts the imune system of the fish.
Yes I do have xray because I see right through you. You have read all there is and that makes you a fishician.
I do not state to know everything about this hobby, I have spent enough money on it and read enough to make my own opinion. I did not state that garlic is the cure all method, IMO it boosts the imune system of the fish.
SS7
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With all the "experts" on RC, who do you trust? Most get caught up with what they think they know. The hobby, as with science, is always evolving.
What consistently works is hypo or copper. If you can remove the unhealthy fish, I would do so.
Having said that, I've put 2 fish at different times in a thriving reef without quarantining and had outward ich displayed afterwards and never had an issue with it returning. No UV, no medicine, 35ppt, just a bunch of hungry SPS I presume.
Don't fall subject to the trolls!
SS
What consistently works is hypo or copper. If you can remove the unhealthy fish, I would do so.
Having said that, I've put 2 fish at different times in a thriving reef without quarantining and had outward ich displayed afterwards and never had an issue with it returning. No UV, no medicine, 35ppt, just a bunch of hungry SPS I presume.
Don't fall subject to the trolls!
SS
manderx
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i agree with this 100%. healthy fish don't get sick, so focus more on keeping the display happy than stressing the fish out with hospital tanks. fish are constantly surrounded by diseases/parasites in the water, but as long as they are happy and their immune system working at 100%, they are fine.
i personally believe that overall, hospital/qt tanks kill far more fish than they save.
All fish are in a 20 Gallon QT tank, Salinity at 1.009, temp at 80*, and they show signs of zero stress. I put a little bit of food in and they all came out and ate hearty.
I put various PVC fittings in the tank for them to hide in.
We had to aquascape again because of pulling live rock and placing it in a tub to catch the fish.
If this isn't love for the fish and corals....I don't know what is!
I'll keep you all updated on the progress.
Oh yeh...NEVER get your fingers close to the tail of a Sailfin because he has a sharp barb on the back that he will show no mercy on jabbing you with it! He brought blood!
I put various PVC fittings in the tank for them to hide in.
We had to aquascape again because of pulling live rock and placing it in a tub to catch the fish.
If this isn't love for the fish and corals....I don't know what is!
I'll keep you all updated on the progress.
Oh yeh...NEVER get your fingers close to the tail of a Sailfin because he has a sharp barb on the back that he will show no mercy on jabbing you with it! He brought blood!
cayenne
Premium Member
Jeremy,
Keep a close eye on the fish for any signs of distress, and double check your pH... Dropping the salinity this quickly is not recommended. Most people recommend dropping to 1.009 over the period of 2-3 days to reduce osmotic shock, not doing it in a couple of hours. If you pH is at an acceptable level, it will help while the become acclimated to this lower SG.
Luckily fish can stand a dropping salinity much better than a quickly rising salinity, but it is still important to step back and breath and go slow.
Keep a close eye on the fish for any signs of distress, and double check your pH... Dropping the salinity this quickly is not recommended. Most people recommend dropping to 1.009 over the period of 2-3 days to reduce osmotic shock, not doing it in a couple of hours. If you pH is at an acceptable level, it will help while the become acclimated to this lower SG.
Luckily fish can stand a dropping salinity much better than a quickly rising salinity, but it is still important to step back and breath and go slow.
NbMaxx13
New member
This hobby is all about personal preference. What works for some may not work for others. All I have done since being in this hobby is listen to what everyone has to say , because inevitably there are varying opinions and I then take what I can and form my own. I know that there are a few people in this club whose advice I would take each and every time it was offered because I have talked to them for hours at a time and seen the results over and over. 2 of them posted in this thread and thier advice is solid. There is validity toeveryones advice because , it has worked for them at some point... Good luck man , and again call me if you need anything...
Good advice Landen. I guess some of us get in a hurry for the "miracle cure' and we really should go slower.
I will keep an eye on them. Just tested the PH and I'm right at 8.2
When I reintroduce the fish back to the tank, I will raise the salinity gradually over a 4-5 day period to ensure they aren't shocked by the rise in salinity.
Thanks!
I will keep an eye on them. Just tested the PH and I'm right at 8.2
When I reintroduce the fish back to the tank, I will raise the salinity gradually over a 4-5 day period to ensure they aren't shocked by the rise in salinity.
Thanks!
