drummereef
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Thanks Eel-byte. Me too!
drummereef's 180g in-wall build
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Thanks Eel-byte. Me too!
I would soak that baserock in vinegar and water and then cook it for a while(4-8 weeks), while seeding it with live rock... I couldn't believe the amount of po4 that mine leached. Of course it masked itself for the first few years with just prolonged algae stages typical of new tanks and then exploded...
drummereef
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Ewww. That's not good. Thanks for the heads up, Hop. I might get started on that sooner than later then. Do you really think the 'explosion' of phosphate was only from the rock? Were there any changes to your system that might have caused this buildup?
Bill14
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I'm not sure that 4" baffle is going to catch much since you'll have another 5" of water over it. I'd guess the detritus will float enough to populate both sections equally. But I've never tried it. Maybe somebody who has will chime in.
Great detail on putting down the laminate. Looks great!
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14712036#post14712036 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drummereef
Ewww. That's not good. Thanks for the heads up, Hop. I might get started on that sooner than later then. Do you really think the 'explosion' of phosphate was only from the rock? Were there any changes to your system that might have caused this buildup?
Yeah, unfortunately I do. I had my own issues, but my neighbor had an instant explosion and we set his tank up with a far better nutrient export system than on mine. And from cruising the boards I've seen a bit of a pattern. Many have success without doing anything to the rock, but many have HA, dino and cyano issues within the first few months. I figure what the hey, if your taking your time, do the vinegar and water or muriatic acid bath over night and start cooking them while seeding it all with some live rock now. it would give you the best environment right off the bat.
I bet you would see po4 readings as high as .05 at the end of the first week of cooking.
drummereef
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Thanks for the kind words, Bill14. Slowly but surely it's coming together.
Melev said the same thing you did about the half baffle in the sump. I might end up taking it out if people feel it's a bad thing.
drummereef
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Wow, thanks for the heads up on that one. You know, now that you say it I have noticed an influx of dinos with people using these rocks. I'll definitely soak and cook them before they go in the display. I got all kinds of time before this thing get up and running.
Hey Hop, what do you think of the sump design?
crvz
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Sump design looks good, but I don't know how much that 4" baffle is really going to do. It would definitely depend on the amount of water flow you've got going through the sump, but in any case I'd think it needs to be taller to be effective. How do you plan on cleaning out that area if it does work well?
drummereef
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Ok, good points again crvz.
I plan on roughly 900gph at most through the sump. That's about 5x the display volume. I think I could get in there with some tubing to clean it out if it gets dirty. But, if everyone thinks it's unnecessary, or could cause problems later, I'll take it out. Is there anything else you would add? I might want to do a rack for probes, but I can design that after I get the sump built. I'll run carbon in a reactor so I probably won't do a section for bags. All will be plumbed off the main return pump from the manifold.
My neighbors was after... I used reeferrocks which has sadly gone out of business. CAP'n Jer was awesome
But I'm not sure how much pre-cycling is really going on. From what I see and read, he is so busy and short on rock alot (which is a good thing)... But I would still take that extra step, to avoid problems down the road...
drummereef
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Ok, got it Hop. I was trying to figure the "actual" footprint for the 250 the last couple days and the smallest I could make it was 13.5 x 16.5. This was wall to wall with no extra space, and I had to turn the output in a bit. I'll go ahead and make the skimmer section 20" square.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14719632#post14719632 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drummereef
Ok, got it Hop. I was trying to figure the "actual" footprint for the 250 the last couple days and the smallest I could make it was 13.5 x 16.5. This was wall to wall with no extra space, and I had to turn the output in a bit. I'll go ahead and make the skimmer section 20" square.
yeah, but then you may want the extended neck and an askoll pump:lol: I'm debating about picking one up after Tuesday myself
drummereef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14719777#post14719777 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crvz
Nah, not right now. Making it somewhat generic does add to 1) it's ease of implementation for any hardware you may chose or upgrade to later on, and 2) the ability to sell it for the next move/tank upgrade.
Totally. I figured once I move my Aquacontroller Jr from the 40g I'll get a better idea how to personalize it. I might make some removable probe brackets and something for the top off control as well. I like the 'bare bones' idea on this so far too.
drummereef
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Here's another design for the sump, per Melev's request. He wanted to see a top rim with radius corners and a center brace for maximum support. I also re-measured the space under the stand and can squeeze a couple more inches in this thing. This will give me approx 75 gallons at only 14" high.
Thoughts?
He wanted to see a top rim with radius corners and a center brace for maximum support. I also re-measured the space under the stand and can squeeze a couple more inches in this thing. This will give me approx 75 gallons at only 14" high. Thoughts?
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Anemonebuff
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14712036#post14712036 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drummereef
Ewww. That's not good. Thanks for the heads up, Hop. I might get started on that sooner than later then. Do you really think the 'explosion' of phosphate was only from the rock? Were there any changes to your system that might have caused this buildup?
I have also heard that the Marco Rock is high in PO4, probably silicates as well. I would run it in a tub of water with GFO for a week or two.
