Elos Biotopus ll controller comments

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14817661#post14817661 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Doahh
I'm saying most people dont have a 220 run to a random room in their house
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Did you even look at my link?

http://content.sylvania.com/app/display.aspx?id=003678770

Its says 120v, so i would say yes, Dali Ballasts does works on 120v.

Like I said before, it not hard to run a 220v line from your panel.
I am trying to help here, I dont post a link just for posting links. :)
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14817327#post14817327 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefer08
Anyone know if the RKE has the capabilities to dim T5's? Im really liking the fact the Apex can dim T5's.
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Yes it can. Its called the Advanced Lighting Module. It has two 0-10v outputs and also has two outputs for moonlights and another outlet for up to 6 Aquailluminations fixtures.

You can check it out here.

Profilux basic packages may cost the same price, but the expansion is too expensive for me. It may not be for others, and that is fine, but for me, it is. For example, 4 controllable outlets for an RKE/RKL is $90. From GHL, its $199.

Just my reasoning. :)

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818207#post14818207 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
Yes it can. Its called the Advanced Lighting Module. It has two 0-10v outputs and also has two outputs for moonlights and another outlet for up to 6 Aquailluminations fixtures.

You can check it out here.

Profilux basic packages may cost the same price, but the expansion is too expensive for me. It may not be for others, and that is fine, but for me, it is. For example, 4 controllable outlets for an RKE/RKL is $90. From GHL, its $199.

Just my reasoning. :)

Brandon
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14817733#post14817733 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by recife111
Why does everything have to be about price with Marine hobbyist,

It cost what it cost.

The ghl does not even cost that much more and you get more features.
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??????

I guess money is no object to some people. I have to work for it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818207#post14818207 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NeveSSL
Yes it can. Its called the Advanced Lighting Module. It has two 0-10v outputs and also has two outputs for moonlights and another outlet for up to 6 Aquailluminations fixtures.

You can check it out here.

Profilux basic packages may cost the same price, but the expansion is too expensive for me. It may not be for others, and that is fine, but for me, it is. For example, 4 controllable outlets for an RKE/RKL is $90. From GHL, its $199.

Just my reasoning. :)

Brandon
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Did you know the Profilux controller has those feature built in?
No addon needed.
In other words the RKE is more expenive then the Profilux.

People do not realize how lacking is the RKE and APEX compare to the Profilux.

BTW, GHL are in the final stages of testing the dimmable AC power bar, this will allow the dimming of AC input dimmable 110V T5HO ballasts such as the Phillip Advance Mark 10 ballasts. The advantage of these is the fact that they are available in all wattages for 110V.
GHL are the only company to offer this.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818290#post14818290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jtrasap
??????

I guess money is no object to some people. I have to work for it.
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Do you read anything on what we are saying?

If you compare apples with apples, Profilux is cheaper then the RKE and the INC APEX.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818320#post14818320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luisagos
Did you know the Profilux controller has those feature built in?
No addon needed.
In other words the RKE is more expenive then the Profilux.

People do not realize how lacking is the RKE and APEX compare to the Profilux.

BTW, GHL are in the final stages of testing the dimmable AC power bar, this will allow the dimming of AC input dimmable 110V T5HO ballasts such as the Phillip Advance Mark 10 ballasts. The advantage of these is the fact that they are available in all wattages for 110V.
GHL are the only company to offer this.
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Did you know that this is irrelevant to me? ;) I don't need these features... I'm going the Vortech route and won't be buying some of these features anyway. :)

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818339#post14818339 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luisagos
Do you read anything on what we are saying?

If you compare apples with apples, Profilux is cheaper then the RKE and the INC APEX.
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Obviously 'you' didn't read, Luis. I was replying to a comment made by Recife to the tune of "Why does everything have to be about price with Marine hobbyists, It cost what it cost". Regardless, I don't have unlimited funds to spend on anything whether it be a chicken sandwich or a controller, I'm going to shop around. The Profilux may cost around the same price for the starter package but expansion is way over priced and they need to do something about it. I don't have a controller at all at the moment but I do plan on getting one in the near future. I'll be waiting to see the new Profilux and the Apex and see what the controller market looks like then. Maybe GHL can bring down the expansion module prices by then.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14818392#post14818392 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jtrasap
Obviously you didn't read, Luis. I was replying to a comment made by Recife to the tune of "Why does everything have to be about price with Marine hobbyists, It cost what it cost". Regardless, I don't have unlimited funds to spend on anything whether it be a chicken sandwich or a controller, I'm going to shop around. The Profilux may cost around the same price for the starter package but expansion is way over priced and they need to do something about it. I don't have a controller at all at the moment but I do plan on getting one in the near future. I'll be waiting to see the new Profilux and the Apex and see what the controller market looks like then. Maybe GHL can bring down the expansion module prices by then.
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Then I wish you good luck. Please research well, and dont listen to the hype.
Do not take my word for it, when you are ready for a controller or anything your buying do your research.
Good Luck.
 
One thing that I have noticed when debating these controllers is that some of you are not aware of the approach that DA is taking with the RKE and RKL controllers in regards to cost. Louis, you mention that you don't need an addon to do the dimmable lights and yet the RKE does need it. That is because with almost every feature like that it comes with a cost. I don't want dimmable ballast control (mostly because it is horribly bad on lamps, despite what some people say) so I don't have to pay for it. Moonlights are the same way. If you want your RKE to control moonlights, then pay $60 and buy a moonlight control module and LED pods. It means that someone who doesn't want a feature doesn't have to pay for it to be there for no reason. Now obviously some things will go unused, but for the most part you just pick the components that you need. In some ways that may make a system more costly, but it also makes it very versatile. When comparing it with the Profilux it is comparing two completely different approaches designing the system.

And Louis, you are correct, the RKE does not currently have a way to control Tunze pumps. That doesn't bother me though because I don't want big, bulky powerheads in my tank anyway. I run a closed loop. Another way that the RKE suits me just fine.
 
Keep in mind the Profilux II is the same price of RKE now, with this new sale.
When the Profilux III comes out and you must have that OMG function, you do not need to replace what you brought, just need to get the upgrade kit.

I agree, it does not make sense to sell your RKE and buy the Profilux if you do not need the extra functions.
But for people that are starting fresh, i think its a no brainier.

BTW, what do you think about the Vortech? Very low profile and very powerful.
I really want to go this way, but you know me, I want it to be control by my controller, hehe.

Time to put pressure on TIM. :D
 
I just hate all powerheads. Call me a powerhead hater, I guess. With any luck I will have massive coral growth and that will force me to add a second closed loop to my system. I accounted for that in the original set up of my tank.

That being said, I like the look of the Vortechs better. They are smaller and I am sure control will be coming soon.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14820420#post14820420 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DaveMorris
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That being said, I like the look of the Vortechs better. They are smaller and I am sure control will be coming soon.
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I hope so!

Brandon
 
What type of controlling features would a Profiliux or RKE have over the tunze streams or any powerhead for that matter? Im not impressed at all with my RKL limited ability to only control an A/B wavermaker cycle of ON/OFF intervals.

What id like to know is what kind of intensity controls would the higher ended controlers have?


And for under 200 dollars for the NEW tunze controller (that can control a ton of tunzes) do we really care about controlling powerheads via our rke or apex?
 
Originally posted by recife111 Why does everything have to be about price with Marine hobbyist, It cost what it cost. The ghl does not even cost that much more and you get more features. ?????? I guess money is no object to some people. I have to work for it.
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You might have to work for it , but why do you get paid so much? i am sure someone could do it cheaper.

:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14821551#post14821551 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by recife111
You might have to work for it , but why do you get paid so much? i am sure someone could do it cheaper.

:)
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I'm sure they could, too... but that doesn't mean they'll do it better or more efficient. In other words, I doubt they're as awesome as I am. I'm a bargain. :lol:

Just messin'.

Reefer08, to answer your question, its cheaper for the same thing. Plus I think sometimes the controllers offer more options than just the standard Tunze controller. :)

Brandon
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14821534#post14821534 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefer08
What type of controlling features would a Profiliux or RKE have over the tunze streams or any powerhead for that matter? Im not impressed at all with my RKL limited ability to only control an A/B wavermaker cycle of ON/OFF intervals.

What id like to know is what kind of intensity controls would the higher ended controlers have?


And for under 200 dollars for the NEW tunze controller (that can control a ton of tunzes) do we really care about controlling powerheads via our rke or apex?
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Why spend $200 on something thats built in the controller.
The biggest thing about using Profilux to control your devices, is to control them from one source.
RKE Elite can not control these pumps and APEX is unknown ATM.
For example, if you want to feed, only device that you need to tell is the controller and it does the rest for you.

This a good read about a Real way to control pumps, just not by turning them off and on.
How complex do you want to go, its up to you.

http://www.aquariumcomputer.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=115

BTW, Profilux can control the Vortech, tell Tim to upgrade the drivers.

Go here and tell him. :)

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1563383
 
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