female Fairy wrasse fighting

ReeferAl

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I bought 2 sub-adult female red headed fairy wrasse- C. solarensis. For the first week they were fine. Today they have started chasing each other continuously, even to the point of ignoring mysis in the water. There is also a smaller female juvenile that they both leave alone. No male is present.

Is this likely to stop? Do I need to get rid of one? Is it ever possible to have a small grouping (as suggested by Scott Michael in his book) or is a pair or single all that can be kept? Any suggestions what to do now?

Allen
 
The 2 eventually quit fighting. The slightly larger female established herself as dominant and she just makes sure every now and then that the other knows it.

New problem. I added a terminal phase male to the tank. The "experts" say to add the male after the females for the females protection. He's about 1/4" smaller than the females. The dominant female attacked him incessantly from the time I put him into the tank. This was aggressive attacks like I've seen result in fish deaths in the past. I managed to catch him, put a barrier into the tank and then return him to the side opposite the females. It makes me think that size and who is there first is more important than gender in territorial fighting.
Will I ever be able to remove the barrier or will I eventually have to get rid of either the male or the dominant female? Anyone experienced this?

Allen
 
The 2 eventually quit fighting. The slightly larger female established herself as dominant and she just makes sure every now and then that the other knows it.
Those two "females" are both becoming sub-males. What you are seeing is them trying to establish who the dominant one (and eventually terminal male) will be. It only stops if one submits to the other.

New problem. I added a terminal phase male to the tank.
*Cringe* Alright; no fault of your own based off what you've read, but this will not work. The result you're seeing is exactly what I'd expect.

Will I ever be able to remove the barrier or will I eventually have to get rid of either the male or the dominant female?
Remove the one recently added. You will soon have a terminal male from the other.

The "experts" say to add the male after the females for the females protection.
I too, once upon a time, also read this same published advice. However, after being a wrasse-addict and owning very many, I would never give nor follow this same advice. A female can (and often will) begin a transition to male in just a few days if removed from a dominant male. This is how nature works.

Adding females (or better, juvi's) alongside an established male is do-able. Trying to add a male to the tank of established "females" is risky business.

Putting a few females in a tank, and then later adding a male, is not something I'd do.

He's about 1/4" smaller than the females.
Size has little weight in this, unless we're talking about one small enough to still be a juvi (and therefore still female).
 
Thanks for your advice. I was worried that might be the case. The females don't show any morphological changes yet but that may be on the way. For right now I'll just leave them together with the barrier. I don't have time to mess around with it as it takes a while to place or remove. They're just fine when separated. I may move him to the QT. Then I could get 2 or 3 more juveniles or smaller females and he would keep them from changing while they're in quarantine. Then I can find a new home for him.

Allen
 
So I separated the male from the 2 "females" with a netting divider. After 2 weeks the power heads blew an opening at the edge and one day I came home to find all 3 on the same side of the tank. The divider has been out for 2 days now. The 3 seem to be getting along fine with essentially no chasing. The male and subordinate female have been making spawning motions the last 2 evenings. The dominant female is usually in the sand by then.
It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks to months.

Allen
 
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