For those thinking of taking something home

i still havnt found anything out about south carolina laws. butfor now im going to have to put that on hold since my parents house burned to the ground a few weeks ago :( and they lost everything :(
 
Sorry to hear that aceheart1976. I never been down to southcarolina what kind of life you got in the ocean around there is it coldwater reefs?
 
posin, last time i went diving, i was a few miles off shore and it looked real similar to the florida reefs. very pretty and colorful
 
ace, sorry to hear that for your family.

I recently put together a small website about my tanks, collecting fish, and SCUBA diving. Its a work in progress, but eventually will get huge. (Lots of upcoming dives!)

www.AirInHeresReef.com
 
I really don't think you should be trying to gather anything from the Solomon Islands, to bring back on a plane. I am sure you will be breaking some law of that country or even U.S. law. I see where you gathered some stuff in Florida to take home and had a pretty good survival rate. I don't think you have the training to be shipping live animals. I feel as though you should go dive Solomon Islands and leave the animals there.

It looks like you have support from fellow reef central members. I say leave the animals there unless you are a authorized experienced shipper.
 
Well, point me at the law I would be breaking and I will be sure to adjust my activities accordingly.

I didnt realize there was training for shipping live animals. It really is not all that complex. In fact, there is a great explanation of what to do in Calfos new book.

I hope I would recieve the support of RC members. I am looking for ways to legally collect corals and fish from the same places we get them sent from everyday. I much prefer the overall experience of finding my own tank inhabitants. I also believe that I am recieving healthier specimens than something that has been shipped via the normal process.

Anyone foolishly thinking this is a cheap way to get corals or fish is sorely mistaken. This is a way to more fully connect with the life in your tank.

Biggest problem I am discovering with collecting in the Solomons, is that there are several stops on the way back to the U.S. The length of the flight time would be very hard on just about anything. Plus if anything got lost....

Legalities seem to be taking a back seat to transportation times as the biggest hurdle to overcome.
 
I have not read through the complete thread so please excuse me if I am repeating anything.

Solomon Islands does export some aquaculture and wild caught specimens to the US. As reefers who have been around a long time (early to mid 90's) can attest, we see way less cool stuff these days. I am told it has to do with civil unrest this country has experienced in recent years. I have heard that 1 or more collection facilities had been burned to the ground. Regardless there is still some collecting going on.

Perhaps a path of less resistance would be for you to try to contact US wholesalers and see if they would be able to put you in touch with a local SI collector/exporter. If you could go collecting with them and have them deliver your booty back to the US it might work better. You might even be able to put together a deal with one of the wholesalers to collect extra for them. This way it is a win win and everyone is incentivised to make it happen.

Mike Paletta made a trip to Fiji a few years back and they hooked up with local collectors. They went on a several day expedition cherry picking corals. You might want to contact him to see how he arranged everything.

Hope this helps!

Erik
 
I quickly read through this thread, and what i read leaves me to believe you just want animal for free, with no respect for the lives of the animals.......Maybe I missed something.

I do not understand why you cannot get your LFS to check on what is available from the Solomon Islands at this time, and choose from that list.

In your last post, I see you prefer to pick your own animals. I am not opposed to this, I just don't see how your method of collecting, bagging, and shipping to the US would be better than the experienced people who do it every day.

I have not been to the Solomon Islands, nor do i know what is happening to the country. I do not know the laws, but i do know the process on getting live animals from the collector all the way to the local fish store.

I have been diving for ten years and after seeing natural reefs, it does help me to understand the importance of flow, lighting, and the placement of corals and animals in my past and present tanks.

Collecting your own (as you stated ) gives you a connection. I think I know what that feeling is. I just think using a collector from that country is the best bet. Plus it gives a local person a job.
 
Ya know, I respect your opinion and believe you are entitled to it. I only ask that you respect me enough to allow me to have a different opinion.

That having been said....
Gus, go away. you are not welcome here. You are simply a troll.

I have no interest in an endless dialogue with you to make you feel better about something that you will never feel better about. I am in no way concerned about your personal slant on this and do not feel obligated to explain myself because I do not feel there is anything wrong with what I am wanting to do.

Go start an argument with someone else.

I am going to collect my own corals as I travel.

It is going to happen.

I will tell everyone how I am going about doing it.

and I think everyone else should be able to do it also.
 
I have found that the fish and softies that I collect for my personal use ( in Florida) have a better life expectancy than the fish purchased at the local fish stores. Plus it is more enjoyable.
 
Also as part of a purchased fishing license you are allowed to collect up to 20 organisms, per person, per day. There are some size regulations on Anglefish. No "stony" corals, No purple sea fans, No long spine urchins. There are a few other protected organisms. Its all listed on the Florida fish and wildlife commision website.
 
...one could mule a few frag bags, don't recommend it though. I like the idea that AgentSPS shared, and hope to do just that someday. Connecting with the exporters and diving with the collectors, then having your corals sent back to you after they have acclimated and healed is the way to go. Also, keeping coral alive until you return home from your trip might be challenging.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12115394#post12115394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by airinhere

I am going to collect my own corals as I travel.

It is going to happen.

.

Not in the Solomans though hey. :lol:
 
And still we get obscure comment from those who disaprove of collecting from the wild.

I am always amazed at the ability of people to lie about things they do not approve of morally. The topic of personal collection is almost a non-issue legally and yet the constant insinuation is that it is some form of secret crime with severe punishments and fines associated with it.

A little more from the california side of things. (coldwater organinsms from the Pacific)

All of this is pulled straight from the California state fishing regs for the current year. (Note that there are a confusing amount of protected areas with the new MPLA activities that have started in the last year, so always check with a reliable source to make sure you are not collecting in a protected area).

Commercial rules are very different. This is only for personal collecting

28.91. Slurp Guns. Slurp guns may be used to take finfish except that bag and possession limits
shall not be exceeded wherever they apply and no species of finfish may be taken for which a
minimum size limit has been established (see Sections 27.60 and 28.00-28.55

Invertebrates
29.05. General.
(a) Except as provided in this article there are no closed seasons, closed hours or minimum
size limits for any invertebrate. The bag limit on all invertebrates for which the take is authorized
and for which there is not a bag limit otherwise established in this article is 35. In San Francisco
and San Pablo bays and saltwater tributaries east of the Golden Gate Bridge invertebrates may
not be taken at night except from the shore.
(b) Take of all invertebrates is prohibited within state marine reserves. Take of certain invertebrates
may be prohibited within state marine parks and state marine conservation areas as per subsection
632(b). In addition, tidal invertebrates may not be taken in any tidepool or other areas
between the high tide mark (defined as Mean Higher High Tide) and 1,000 feet seaward and
lateral to the low tide mark (defined as Mean Lower Low Water) except as follows:
(1) Except where prohibited within state marine reserves, state marine parks, state marine
conservation areas, or other special closures only the following may be taken: red abalone, limpets,
moon snails, turban snails, chiones, clams, cockles, mussels, rock scallops, native oysters,
octopuses, squid, crabs, lobsters, shrimp, sand dollars, sea urchins and worms except that no
worms may be taken in any mussel bed, unless taken incidental to the harvesting of mussels.
(c) Measuring Devices. Every person while taking invertebrates which have a size limit shall
carry a device which is capable of accurately measuring the minimum legal size of the species
taken.
(d) In all ocean waters skin and Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus (SCUBA) divers
may take invertebrates as provided in this article except that in all ocean waters north of Yankee
Point (Monterey Co.), SCUBA may be used only to take sea urchins, rock scallops and crabs of
the genus Cancer. For the purpose of this section, breathing tubes (snorkels) are not SCUBA.
 
Sorry to hear that aceheart1976. I never been down to southcarolina what kind of life you got in the ocean around there is it coldwater reefs?

I know its been a while since this thread has gotten some attention, but I would like to chime in on some of the life found offshore here in SC. I am mostly a spearfisherman, but I can tell you with absolute certainty, that a large percentage of "tropicals" you would find in Florida are here in SC. Large blue angels and queens are found in 50ft or less of water. We have Frenches/Grays and I have also seen the occasional rock beauty. Keep in mind, that the gulf stream is only 30 or so miles offshore here, and we have a huge diversity of awesome fish. In fact, I will put SC fishing up against FL fishing anyday. Our hogfish are sooo much bigger than those in FL. A senseless fact I know, but I just have to brag!!!!! :rollface: :rollface:

The major problem I have found when it comes to collecting fish in SC is the decompression factor. Because so many of the "in demand" ornamentals are found in deeper water 75ft or more, you have to really take your time bringing your catch up the surface. If not, you better be really good at using a needle, but I definitely do not recommend doing that!!!!
 
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