Force Clownfish to make a couple

leo1405

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Is there a way to force two female of clownfish to make a couple?

I was thinking about to put they in something like a hatch for a couple weeks. Will it works or they will fighting to death?

thanks in advance,
 
if they are both females then they will not pair up and most likely fight to the death, once they are female they can't turn back to a male
 
Clownfish change from genderless to male to female.
They can't reverse from female to male or from male to genderless.
If you just want a pair, instead of trying to pair two females, get a really small baby that hasn't matured yet and they should pair pretty quickly, because both of them know who obviously is dominant.
When I paired my maroons, the female was 6" and the male was a 1" baby. They paired up in less than a day, so I'd like to think I'm pretty lucky.
Also, clowns don't need a host to survive, or even thrive. They can do just fine without.
 
and am I right assuming that both are females cause both have some fights? (both have some months of age. one of them almost a year)

thank you very much, guys.
 
Barry White music & candles in the background do it everytime...;) Nah, seriously, do you know for certain they're both females? Were they alone in a tank for extended period of time to turn female? If truly both females, they will never pair up & will fight to the death. If unsure the existing two are both females, observe them in tank for a few days to see if there's aggression & mouth locking. If much fighting happens or you find ragged fins, remove smaller one & replace w/ much smaller juvie. What kind of clownfish are they, btw?
 
Hi SwampyBill!

they are perculas. and yes, some times the bigger cross the tank and they make something like mouth to mouth and start fighting. after 2 or 3 seconds they stop and the big one go away.
 
Sounds like 2 females, indeed. How long have they been in same tank? Are you seeing any of the submissive shaking going on from either one? Before it gets too ragged, you might bring smaller one to your LFS & see if they'll trade it for the smallest juvie they have.
 
they are about 5 months together in same tank. actually, sometimes the little one shake, but I saw it shaking only 2 or 3 times.
what is that shaking?

thank you very much.
 
That shaking is done to show submission to larger one (usually female), but sometimes both will do it. If they've been in same tank for that long & still haven't paired up, guess she's not accepting it as mate; or other one is still a juvie & not sexually male yet, but staying out of her way. I'd take smaller one back to LFS & get smallest one you can find. Putting both existing ones in breed box could hasten fighting & death.
 
I think they will be fine. Just give them time. If you have two female there will be damage to one or both. The larger female will not just "go away" but will keep attack the other. The weaker one will run all over the place to hide and end up dead due to wounds or starvation.
It looks like your will pair after a time.
Less than 1 year old they are still juveniles, they will be fine.
 
Clownfish change from genderless to male to female.
They can't reverse from female to male or from male to genderless.

FWIW, while this is generally regarded as true, I believe there have been some very sporadic cases where a known breeding female turned male. It's been a while, but IIRC, it was a Clarkii simplex clown, and it might have been Rod that recorded this.

Can someone with a better memory confirm?
 
FWIW, while this is generally regarded as true, I believe there have been some very sporadic cases where a known breeding female turned male. It's been a while, but IIRC, it was a Clarkii simplex clown, and it might have been Rod that recorded this.

Can someone with a better memory confirm?

It was Rod, and I am 95% certain it was a Clarkii.
 
Hi guys.

today I did the trade, but when putting the little new clownfish in tank, the bigger clown did the same 'attacks' :( doesn't bite, but attacked how defending his anemone.

First I taked the anemone off to see what would happen, but no changes.
Second I put both fishes in hatch, segregated and was thinking about to keep they there for a couple days.
what do you guys think about it? am I losing my time?

here is a picture. Thanks in advance again :)

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Just let new one settle into tank life. Having both in breeder box may cause more harm than good.

Agreed.

Clownfish are naturally aggressive type fish. You need to let nature work things out before they can become a pair. I think you will be looking for years to find a person who hasnt had clownfish that fight in the least. It's just nature, we can only really try to minimize this aggression with plenty of places to hide for the smaller clownfish and waiting.
 
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