Fully stocked reef tank ICH Treatment!!!! IT WORKS!!!

[canada55]

I tried locating PROHIBIT LEVAMISOLE SOLUBLE DRENCH in Canada - No Go.

Tried purchasing from USA supplier and have shipped to Canada - No Go.

Any America willing to help out a neighbor to the north.. Buy and ship up to me, I 'll send payment to cover all costs...HELP! ....thanks Dennis

I eventually found a US supplier (Jeffers Vet) that would send to Canada .. Package was clearing marked on the Customs Declaration as "PROHIBIT/LEVISOLE POWDER 52" (spelled wrong) made in through Canada customs no problemo...

The Ich is still with me, my Atlantic Blue Tang has come back from the brink of death but it is very obvious the the ich is still in my system. I now have a beautiful clown trigger that is having problems and I did loose a Copper Banded B-fly the other day...

I'm setting up a 40 gal Quarantine treatment system,, getting desperate. But as mentioned impossible for me to put 30 fish into a 40gal quarantine..

It's down to treat with Levamisole and risk everything or do nothing and risk it all.

Only other thing is to go out and buy about a $500 worth of Rubbermaid stock tanks or a small kiddie swimming pool and set up a few temporary homes and treat with copper..

I'm stressing.....!

 

[Vapour1ze]

Setup a QT. Best thing I've ever done... I tried this method and no success.....

Do the QT tank. Will cost you less than 100$.

Leave the tank fallow for 10 weeks.

Done.

 

[canada55]

Found this, thought I would add to thread for others to see...

http://youtu.be/3L1qUc0N6bw

I'm thinking about trying the Levamisole and at the same time putting together a 2-3 QT systems for ALL of my critters. Should the Levamisole not work I'll be setup and ready with a few copper QT systems and I'll go fallow for 6-10 weeks. It's a week before Christmas and I'm working retail seven days a week and live in small town with few resources...so its been difficult to deal with in a timely manner..

I do have one question, I'm not sure what to do about my large Green Brittle Star, and a Tuxedo urchin.. leave in or separate from Levamisole treatment..not sure how these guys will take the treatment...comments please.

 

[Vapour1ze]

Found this, thought I would add to thread for others to see...

http://youtu.be/3L1qUc0N6bw

I'm thinking about trying the Levamisole and at the same time putting together a 2-3 QT systems for ALL of my critters. Should the Levamisole not work I'll be setup and ready with a few copper QT systems and I'll go fallow for 6-10 weeks. It's a week before Christmas and I'm working retail seven days a week and live in small town with few resources...so its been difficult to deal with in a timely manner..

I do have one question, I'm not sure what to do about my large Green Brittle Star, and a Tuxedo urchin.. leave in or separate from Levamisole treatment..not sure how these guys will take the treatment...comments please.

I found the same video, that's what convinced me to do it... I'm telling you... Waste of my time, money, and other things. My water turned nasty, I lost a lot of snails.... Some corals really looked shocked... I had to do a ton of water changes... AND ICH IS STILL THERE! I'm not on my 7th week of fallow... I would be on my 10th if I did it from the beginning and didn't even bother trying the other method... Not to mention the 30$ I wasted on the product.


Take the advice, don't do it. Just QT. Trust me. No matter how bad you want to, don't even waste your time or money.

QT your fish, they'll thank you.

 

[canada55]

It's complicated, even if I QT them into 1/2 the space they are in now I would need 1x90gal 1x50gal 2x40gal and I would need another skimmer and sump for 220+gals.(have monster skimmer being built but won't see it until Jan 2015)

I can't house them all together, there are too many and some are big predators. Most complicated are the 2x 24" snowflake moray eels and a 10" grouper.

I would still need most of my equipment to keep the "infected" system running.

I could do it but it would probably take me 3-4 weeks to get it all together. In the mean time I could loose most of my fish anyways if I don't try something real soon..

Will Levamisole at least buy me some time, I don't know if any one can answer that...

 

[Vapour1ze]

When I dosed it made matters worse. Only thing that may buy you time is vitamin c foods. Garlic soaked foods. And heavy water changes. Most fish should be able to live with ich anyways. But at a weak point it can kill them. Try to boost the fishes immunity system while you setup your qt.

 

[canada55]

Still got the ich but everyone is strong and eating. Although it will take me a week or two to get everything together I'm going to take the advise given. Going to remove everyone and go fallow 6-10 weeks...I will leave the Levamisole on the shelf..

Just need to find four(4) 50 gal tubs...thanks guys

 

[Arringar]

Seems to me that the original manufacturer's product was a bit different than the new/current manufacturer. That's a shame. If you look at the history of this thread (and other data I have found) you can clearly see it worked pretty reliably and without serious side effects prior to the point when the original manufacturer discontinued the product.

 

[Vapour1ze]

Seems to me that the original manufacturer's product was a bit different than the new/current manufacturer. That's a shame. If you look at the history of this thread (and other data I have found) you can clearly see it worked pretty reliably and without serious side effects prior to the point when the original manufacturer discontinued the product.

I have the product. The one thst the original poster posted. It does not work. It didn't do anything for me. Don't do this. Pull the fish out and qt. Don't waste your time and be lazy just qt all fish for 10 weeks. Much more effective and safe!

 

[snorvich]

I have the product. The one thst the original poster posted. It does not work. It didn't do anything for me. Don't do this. Pull the fish out and qt.

This. There are no silver bullets.

 

[Arringar]

I am having very good luck with Revive, No-ICH, garlic (to maintain appetite during treatment), and a general immune boosting food regimen including a lot of live, natural foods as suggested by Paul_B.

 

[Vapour1ze]

Ich is Ich. There is no proven cure. If there was, everyone would know about it, and be doing it. QT your fish on purchase. QT them if disease outbreak. Plain and simple. With as much time and money that you are going to be spending on preventatives all you are doing is slowing down the process. Ich will eventually come back bad and kill your fish. It progressively gets worse.

If you like your fish, qt them, take care of them. Pull them out for 10 weeks, QT with hypo, copper, or TTM. Fallow period on the display for 10 weeks. Re-introduce your fish. You will be ich free, and be able to rest assured. Not to mention save money on the fake regimens that DO NOT WORK. I do not mean this in a bad way. I am simply trying to help you.

Cheers.

 

[RainbowTurtle]

I found the same video, that's what convinced me to do it... I'm telling you... Waste of my time, money, and other things. My water turned nasty, I lost a lot of snails.... Some corals really looked shocked... I had to do a ton of water changes... AND ICH IS STILL THERE! I'm not on my 7th week of fallow... I would be on my 10th if I did it from the beginning and didn't even bother trying the other method... Not to mention the 30$ I wasted on the product.


Take the advice, don't do it. Just QT. Trust me. No matter how bad you want to, don't even waste your time or money.

QT your fish, they'll thank you.

It hasn't worked for you, but some people say it's has worked for them. You could of gotten an expired or contaminated batch or ran into a bad vender. I don't tend to disbelieve people when they say they have an experience. I believe it did not work for you, but I also think, given how many people are claiming it has worked for them, that there might be promise to the product and also there may be a few variables here which may change success rates. The product has been designed for something else, so we don't know a lot. For example, the long term affects. You know? This guy who says it has worked has done updates for a long time and it hasn't returned. That does say something for the product. I have to admit. At the very least, it's interesting. Sorry about your losses though. No one likes to see anyone experience tank loss.

 

[ThRoewer]

Ich can sometimes "go away" because the fish develop enough immunity to handle it. And sometimes it really goes away. But this will only work in mild cases and with otherwise healthy fish. In such a case this could be falsely attributed to a "reef safe" medication if used.

But if you fish are seriously sick these medications never work. It has nothing to do with bad batches, just with the fact that these things are just "snake oil".

Often you read that some fish got lost but then it got better - in those cases the fish that died may have been the cause for the out break or the one who kept it alive.
I had it myself where only one or two fish in the tank were sick - usually new fish - and after removing them everything went back to normal without any further actions taken. or medications added.

But if you want to try these wonder cures, go ahead and learn your lessons the hard way.

 

[snorvich]

But if you want to try these wonder cures, go ahead and learn your lessons the hard way.

This.

 

[billsreef]

It hasn't worked for you, but some people say it's has worked for them. You could of gotten an expired or contaminated batch or ran into a bad vender. I don't tend to disbelieve people when they say they have an experience. I believe it did not work for you, but I also think, given how many people are claiming it has worked for them, that there might be promise to the product and also there may be a few variables here which may change success rates. The product has been designed for something else, so we don't know a lot. For example, the long term affects. You know? This guy who says it has worked has done updates for a long time and it hasn't returned. That does say something for the product. I have to admit. At the very least, it's interesting. Sorry about your losses though. No one likes to see anyone experience tank loss.

Sometimes people think something has worked, but the result is actually because of other reasons. In the case of such "novel" so called ich "remedies" the reason is often:

Ich can sometimes "go away" because the fish develop enough immunity to handle it. And sometimes it really goes away. But this will only work in mild cases and with otherwise healthy fish. In such a case this could be falsely attributed to a "reef safe" medication if used.

 

[canada55]

Back in December I had posted that I had a ich infested multi-tank system. I did build a multi-tank 250 gall quarantine system to run my tanks fallow. The follow weeks that I was building the quarantine system all "visible" symptoms of the ich disappeared from all tanks all fish. It's now been 5 months with no sign. Everyone is healthy and eating well, only lost a few fish from jumping out (suicide).

I realize that the ich may still be there and dormant, and I still have my quarantine ready and in standby mode....

not a promotion- but I did try Hikari Ich-X Saltwater Treatment
and fed my display tank New Life Spectrum Ick-Shield pellets (once a day)

 

[Deinonych]

LOL...this thread just will not die. If people would just develop a sound quarantine protocol, they wouldn't have to worry about "miracle cures" and "reef safe" treatments. BTW, evidence is not the same as a bunch of anecdotal experiences.

 

[canada55]

Trouble with sound quarantine practices, is how do quarantine an 11" Sohal tang, a 24" snowflake eel or a 10" grouper in a 40 gal quarantine tank --- you don't you gamble..

Your absolutely right and 90% of the people I know don't quarantine...lazy and impatient. I'm probably in this category too.

I'm better prepared now but I'm a little late..

 

[billsreef]

Trouble with sound quarantine practices, is how do quarantine an 11" Sohal tang, a 24" snowflake eel or a 10" grouper in a 40 gal quarantine tank --- you don't you gamble..

Your absolutely right and 90% of the people I know don't quarantine...lazy and impatient. I'm probably in this category too.

I'm better prepared now but I'm a little late..

Simply put, you either set up a proper QT to deal with the size specimens your acquiring (doesn't need to be as big as a long term display tank ) or you play Russian Roulette.

Personally, I QT. In the long run it actually requires less effort and less patience than dealing with disease issues in the display tank.