Giesemann Lighting Club.
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rtparty
Raise The Reef!
I don't remember the exact reasons. On his R2R thread he talks about it
Salty150
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Would love to know more also!
ReefCowboy
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I follow his thread, and he wanted to try MH. He was telling me in only two weeks after the switch he was already seeing colors improve.
I have also read other users get better results when switched from ATI'S hybrid to a regular sunpower T5 unit. The Spectra MH/T5 seems like an amazing fixture, but way too much heat
ReefCowboy
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Any news on the Genesis?
Have decided on this fixture, but am waiting on the Genesis for comparison to the Aurora, especially cost.
For my 8 foot 300g, I am interested in the 72" unit with the 5 cluster LEDs and 4 bulb T5.
Best coverage compared to the 60" w/4 LED clusters.
Perhaps the Aurora will go on sale once the Genesis makes its appearance.
I would wait until you see the Genesis. I saw it in person at Reefapalooza last year and was dissapointed with the light put out.
The fixture's outside look also didnt look sharp at all compared to what we see with the Spectra, Infinity.
Salty150
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I thought it looked pretty darn nice in this video...?
At 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ZrVmR-V1I
Salty150
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According to this website the Viva is going to be $679
https://www.sewatec.de/giesemann-lightings/vervve/
https://www.sewatec.de/giesemann-lightings/vervve/
ReefCowboy
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Gregg Carroll can maybe pitch in his opinion, as he saw it there as well? Coralvue had told me it was then a prototype, but that there would be no known changes to the final version.
They had the black 48" version I believe, and I placed it over the table checking the light put out and found it to be a bit lacking... the aurora on the other hand looked amazing over an Elos tank at Manhattan Aquariums. The white Aurora is a beautiful light to say the least...
I took pics of the Genesis, am looking for it...
Enterprise7
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I got the 60" Aurora and have only had it running for a few weeks. I have to use the old app to program it as the aurora one does not work. I talked to the service guy that sold me on the fixture as he maintains 3 of them for clients. I bought it off Bulk Reef Supply and it does not come with bulbs. The 60" fixture uses 240V ballast and it comes with a transformer. The T5s are dimmable. I currently have 3 ATI Blue plus and a 1 Purple plus in it and have turned down the white channel to 40% to get a look I like. I tried for a year with 2 Kessil AP700s and have a ton of brown SPS to show for it. Things have already started to improve and I should have at least swapped to T5s months ago. Just bought some new SPS frags so I will see if they have any color issues or not.
My previous tank had a MH/T5 combo and I had pretty good success with lesser equipment and upkeep than I currently have. MH is certainly wonderful, but there is a lot of heat and I had to have a fan to keep it cool.
My previous tank had a MH/T5 combo and I had pretty good success with lesser equipment and upkeep than I currently have. MH is certainly wonderful, but there is a lot of heat and I had to have a fan to keep it cool.
Should be fixed now.
Ignore the light color, I didnt hook up the controller yet so I couldnt really adjust the power on the LEDs.
The fixture will have 4 clusters. Each cluster is around 140w worth of LEDs with 12 channels:
Royal Blue 455nm
Blue - 465nm
Deep Blue - 440nm
HyperViolet - 425
Violets - 405nm + 415nm
Cyan - 495nm
Mint - 440nm + 525nm
Neutral White - 4700K 90CRI
PC Amber - 560nm
Red - 630nm
Deep Red 675nm
Moonlight (blue)
Its a mix of Luxeon and SemiLeds
The fixture will have 4 clusters. Each cluster is around 140w worth of LEDs with 12 channels:
Royal Blue 455nm
Blue - 465nm
Deep Blue - 440nm
HyperViolet - 425
Violets - 405nm + 415nm
Cyan - 495nm
Mint - 440nm + 525nm
Neutral White - 4700K 90CRI
PC Amber - 560nm
Red - 630nm
Deep Red 675nm
Moonlight (blue)
Its a mix of Luxeon and SemiLeds
rtparty
Raise The Reef!
Looking good!
Why does it seem no one ever talking about the Vervve ... when BRS first got this light and did a review it really looked nice and they seemed big on it. But it seems like NO ONE ever talks about it. Does this light just suck or does everyone at this price point just go with the radions?
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Salty150
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Good point...
ReefCowboy
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About 6 months ago I contacted BRS asking more questions about it...I was between that unit and the G4 radions. They were very optimistic about it, and told me the german unit was more promissing due to more blue channels.
I looked everywhere for info on them, and found the same videos, info, which isnt much. I also contacted CoralVue, but they didnt seem too interested in selling me on them. I kind of gave up, never really learning more at the end. Even looked and translated german reefing sites, but little was given also.
Giesemann and other German companies upset me at times, basically to me it feels they are doing us a favor to take our money and make a sale...
Why is it that most of the giesemann fixtures we see and like only come to the US market in the uglier black color? The shinny polar white one is only available in Europe, and looks 100% nicer...Maybe americans dont have taste for classy, sharp colors and deserve the basic black..?
Coralvue does a HORRIBLE job advertising the product. Lets face it, I love BRS and appreciate their role in the hobby, but they spend 90% of the time only talking radions, kessils, ATI sunpowers. Other great fixtures like the Vervve had a highlight here or there, but never again are mentioned.
Trust me when I say LOTS of Radions,, Hydras, Etc..arent really first users' choices, they are basically buying what is in front of them/available/advertised.
If Giesemann was indeed a bit more interested, could really make an impact in sales in the US with Auroras, Vervves, etc. Same goes to ATI, BRS goes beyond helping customers, but ATI doesnt seem to really care about the bad reputation their dimmeable ballasts, hot powermodules have.
Ecotech does a great job securing what is under their nose, and invests in support ensuring customer loyalty and growing market.
So to conclude, unfortunately if you really want a Vervve, you might end up with Radions
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Salty150
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I think it's a regional thing...
We here in the US tend to like the color black more - where in Europe they tend to like the white color more than in the US.
But yeah, I agree with your point - the marketing in this hobby really needs to up its game - in the US especially since it is often forgotten by the European (and other) manufacturers.
ReefCowboy
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I understand. Thanks for clarifying that. I was really looking forward to seeing the Vervve in white. It looked amazing in pics
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