Going to try One And Only Nitrifying Bacteria by Dr Tim's Aquatics

snakeklr said:
Well they survived the night. I came out and turned the lights on and the clows were hiding under a rock, zoo's were partialy open, i did my morning ritual stuff and came back out. All the fish were out swinging away, zoo's fully open.


they survived night #1! yaah! :D
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Why do you continue to ignore the advice you were given? Your 4 clowns will become 2 and you should hope those 2 even survive the cycle. Dr Tim's shortens the cycle. It doesn't make it instant. You are going to have big ammonia and nitrite spikes which will likely kill your fish.
 
He said he used dry rock, so no bacteria. I've never used this product personally, but I don't see why the concept is so unreasonable. It's a bottle full of bacteria. If it indeed is the same bacteria that is found in a mature cycled aquarium, I see no reason why it would not considerably jump-start a cycle unless the bacterial concentration isn't very high in the bottle.

To me it's basically the same concept as prodibio biodigest, and I don't see too many people questions that. Here's a link to Mark's ammonia/nitrite/nitrate readings cycling with this product.
http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/newbuild/
 
snakeklr said:
I have set up a new 120g system. Added the dry LR and crushed coral, sand, subtrate. getting the temp up, salinity. I ordered the Dr Tim's one and only auto cycle stuff to do my system. I am curious if anyone on reef central has used it. My plan is 120g to add the one and only, 4 clowns, and a soft zoa to start the cycle. plan to test levels day before test. at test, day after test, and if needed continued till it leveled out. From the video i saw of it seemed nice easy way instead of waiting a month to two months for a cycle to finish.
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I am sorry that you are getting bashed by everyone. From personal experience Dr Tim's bacteria works great! He is also great to talk to on the phone as well. He is also the one who developed Instant Ocean Bio-Spira. Every tank that I start I use it. I use ammonia to get 1.0 ppm and add the bacteria with out UV or skimmer to a setup tank with out fish but with live rock. I monitor daily while adding the ammonia as well, not just once. I also add the bacteria more than once. I want lots of bacterial mass to support new fish so I can avoid ammonia spikes. I wait until ammonia and nitrite are 0 and when that happens I add fish. Usually takes around a week to cycle my tank. You don't have to take things slow, you just have to do them right. I just received a gallon of Dr Tim's bacteria and I will post what it does and why I use it. I'm working on a 525 gallon fish only system. That unlike someones personal home tank that can take time in the standard 6-8 week cycle this is in a commercial location and needs to be setup fast and full of fish.
 
We are "bashing" him because dr Tim's doesn't make you have no cycle, and he put his fish into an uncycled tank (4 clowns bad combo in that size tank) and he is going to have ammonia spikes which will likely kill any fish that haven't already killed each other.

Yes it makes you cycle a bit quicker, but dr Tim's is not magic in a bottle that makes you have no ammonia spike or cycle. You even admit that in your post then wonder why we are "bashing" him?
 
I used dr tims to cycle my tank. My experince is that it didnt really speed up the cycle but it did allow me to have fish from day 1. Now acording to dr.tim the bacteria makes it safe for a couple fish. If it wasnt safe for the fish they would have died. They are thriving today. Having said all that im not a vegetarian. Any vegans out there have a legit complaint those who eat meat dont have a leg to stand on for the mistreatment of animals. Visit a chicken farm some time if you want to talk about torture.
 
f3honda4me said:
we are "bashing" him because dr tim's doesn't make you have no cycle, and he put his fish into an uncycled tank (4 clowns bad combo in that size tank) and he is going to have ammonia spikes which will likely kill any fish that haven't already killed each other.

Yes it makes you cycle a bit quicker, but dr tim's is not magic in a bottle that makes you have no ammonia spike or cycle. You even admit that in your post then wonder why we are "bashing" him?
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f3honda4me said:
We are "bashing" him because dr Tim's doesn't make you have no cycle, and he put his fish into an uncycled tank (4 clowns bad combo in that size tank) and he is going to have ammonia spikes which will likely kill any fish that haven't already killed each other.

Yes it makes you cycle a bit quicker, but dr Tim's is not magic in a bottle that makes you have no ammonia spike or cycle. You even admit that in your post then wonder why we are "bashing" him?
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I'm not schooling him on his fish choices as they define their boundaries he can take the other clown out if necessary. I have had a 120 with two sets of clowns. All 4 went in at the same time and maybe I got luck but they paired off nicely. When you say ammonia spike what to you mean. My experience with a new tank and new fish with the bacteria I have never gotten more than .05 ppm ammonia (digital colorimeter). I thought .25 might be considered a spike. I never let it get that high. 1 ppm for fish is bad .25 can be stressfully but under 0.1 ppm is not going to hurt in the short term.
 
I used Dr. Tim's to jump-start a cycle (out of necessity, not impatience) and it worked quite well. Never got any ammonia or nitrite readings. I wouldn't go plopping coral in right away, but if an emergency arises and livestock has to be moved quickly, then it's effective.
 
Thank you Plato. A fellow reefer told me about it and its been a while since I had a system so I figure what the hey. I will play guinea pig and try it for the locals.

anyways heres todays report

Well Day #1 "nuke" test.

All is well, all the fish are swiming with ease. Happy as fish, The Zoa's are wide open, all eating as they should, even the Zoa's were happy to get some zooplex. Another reefer gave me a hand leather and a small Zoo frag that was laying in the bottom of his tank. They opened up withing ten minutes after they were dripped and put in the tank.

Oh I noticed some green hair algea? Ussually with a new tank I get the brown algea spell, Shut the lights off for 3 days and they are gone. But this did not happen. Now i notice hair algea. What is odd is the rock was all dry. How is this possible in 1 day to have hair algea? No brown algea bloom? hmm.

Level test
Phosphates 2.0ppm same as yesterday
NO2- 0ppm same as yesterday
NO3- 10ppm- 5ppm up from yesterday

Only raise was the Nitrates 5 to 10 ppm so 5ppm raise.
 
2 PPM for Phosphates is very very high. Not sure if it is leaching from the dry rocks, or from something in Dr. Tim's, but would keep a very close eye on them.
 
f3honda4me said:
We are "bashing" him because dr Tim's doesn't make you have no cycle, and he put his fish into an uncycled tank (4 clowns bad combo in that size tank) and he is going to have ammonia spikes which will likely kill any fish that haven't already killed each other.

Yes it makes you cycle a bit quicker, but dr Tim's is not magic in a bottle that makes you have no ammonia spike or cycle. You even admit that in your post then wonder why we are "bashing" him?
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Really man?

Is that any way to talk to one of our fellow reefers?

Cut the guy some slack, He's just trying to start a tank like everybody else.

BTW...have you used DR. Tims, do you have personal experience with it?

I personally know a lot of people who have had great results with it. Treat people how you would like to be treated. Love your neighbor as yourself.
 
Well I wish I went with dr Tim's, I did the old shrimp in sump for 3 days and got milky water, going on 7 days. 120 gallon with 80lbs dry rock from Marco and reef cleaners.
 
I went the plain old way and let my tank cycle and mature. I added plain old ammonia. It takes long but gives you more time to read and learn this hobby. Everyone is different but I just decided to do it this way.
 
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