Green Film Algae

Buzz1329

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For past few months, I’ve been battling what appears to be a green film algae in my 2.5 year old 75. I’m calling it “film” because it is not filamentous like GHA, but – unlike cyano or diatoms – it clings to the surface of rocks and does not immediately siphon out when doing water changes, although it does siphon off easily from tank and overflow walls.

Here are some photos of the algae:









I added a dozen Turbo snails, and even a Dolla Bella Sea Hare. The Sea Hare seemed to eat green hair algae in the tank but would not touch the film stuff. When the GHA was gone so was the Sea Hare. The Turbos (and other herbivores I have in tank) do not seem to eat the stuff either.

I have confirmed with a reliable Hach test kit that my phosphates are near zero – they should be – I use a cup of GFO in a reactor and change it weekly.

Nitrates are zero with API test.

Alkalinity hovers around 8.0; calcium at about 425; and salitiy at 35 ppt.

I also have a separate reactor with a cup of BRS ROX GAC, also changed weekly, and an adequate skimmer – the AquaMaxx ConeS CO-2 Skimmer -- which pulls a few inches of brown crud from the system every 1-2 days.

I feed sparingly (about 1/6th of a sheet of Nori daily for the Foxface, about 5 ml of saltwater teeming with baby brine shrimp in the am, and in pm ½ cube of assorted frozen food for remaining fish (yellow watchman goby with his pistol shrimp, yellow tail damsel, royal gramma, and mandarin goby).

I do 10% weekly water changes with zero TDS RO/DI water and use this as opportunity to remove as much of the algae as possible from the tank.

For the past 6 weeks, I have been dosing: (1) Algae Fix Marine at recommended dose; and (2) NOPOX @ 5 ml a day because at the time I did not have a reliable PO4 kit and reasoned that the new algae must be connected to a rise in PO4. If anything, I would say that the algae is slightly worse after starting to dose AFM and NOPOX.

At this point, I’m out of ideas about how to eradicate this stuff from my tank. Any advice would be appreciated.

Mike
 
Green Film Algae

Looks like bubble algae. Emerald Crabs can take care of the stuff.


Does not look like valonia.

This could be a green Cyanobacteria. Nutrient control can help, but if it's overgrown there are better fixes, for instance Chemiclean or Red Slime Renover
 
When you quoted theatrus you forgot this so very important part as it answers your question

D'oh. You're right, of course.

But yeesh, I'm so not crazy about using Chemiclean or Red Slime Remover, especially when I'm not sure that I'm dealing with cyano. I'll have to do some further research to decide whether to go down either of those roads.

Thanks,

Mike
 
Looks like green cyano, try trochus snails if you don't want to use chemicals. They love film algae and cyano
 
FWIW, in years past, I've had good luck with Chemiclean and even low doses of maracyn directly to the tank.
 
hi,
I can 100% say its cyno.
I had an outbreak exactly the same as yours and its green cyno.
I personally battled it for 7 weeks, more flow, water changes, rowa etc etc.
Gave up and used chemiclean, gone in 48 hrs never to return.
I have bta's shrimp abalone and over 100 corals not one was neg impacted by using it.
I would be more worried about the cyno becoming toxic to the inhabitants.
If you google green cyno you will see that in bad cases it can kill corals.
Your pictures are exactly the same as mine, as I said guaranteed its green cyno.
 
Chemiclean can and will wipe out cyano, but I've had my sps totally brown out using it before so I'm not crazy about using it.
I would try a lights out period of 3 days if I were you, and keep chasing the source of your nutrient issues.
 
Chemiclean can and will wipe out cyano, but I've had my sps totally brown out using it before so I'm not crazy about using it.
I would try a lights out period of 3 days if I were you, and keep chasing the source of your nutrient issues.

My sps never had a problem with it at all, but i suppose all tanks are different.
I dont believe mine was caused by nutrient issues, it was the imbalance between 0 nitrates and 0.03 phos that was the problem.
Hence why once I got the tank a little more balance it never returned and why the original water changes, rowa etc did nothing.
Studying the Redfield Ration was a great help and sorted out the issues for me very quickly once chemiclean took care of removing int in the first place.
 
My sps never had a problem with it at all, but i suppose all tanks are different.
I dont believe mine was caused by nutrient issues, it was the imbalance between 0 nitrates and 0.03 phos that was the problem.
Hence why once I got the tank a little more balance it never returned and why the original water changes, rowa etc did nothing.
Studying the Redfield Ration was a great help and sorted out the issues for me very quickly once chemiclean took care of removing int in the first place.

Thanks Illesley,

Sounds like Chemiclean may be the way to go.

Mike
 
Chemiclean can and will wipe out cyano, but I've had my sps totally brown out using it before so I'm not crazy about using it.
I would try a lights out period of 3 days if I were you, and keep chasing the source of your nutrient issues.

Thanks,

I'm leaning towards chemiclean but will definitely keep an eye on my SPS (primarily montipora in this tank) if i use it.

Mike
 
No matter what you do to get rid of cyano it is going to be with you until it's cycle is complete. Usually 2-3 weeks. When I got it I once a week pulled up the mat, if you try and do it daily it will not be as easy as leaving it to form the mat and it will come up easily. Increased flow might help some but it will still be there until the bacteria is finished it's cycle. Also do a weekly 10% or more wc.
 
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