Have enough of Tropic Marin Pro Salt
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I will put my 2 cents in. I previously used TM Pro for 2+ years in all three of my tanks, but the last couple buckets (in early 2010) were solid bricks. Nothing like having to chisel your salt mix right out of the gate. So, I switched to Reef Crytsals with no issues.
Recently, a large online vendor was offering free shipping and a 10% discount on orders above $150 for Black Friday. I figured I would give TM Pro another try, and placed an order for two buckets. Keep in mind, this was the weekend following Thanksgiving. The salt was on backorder, but only for a few days (at first). Twice afterward it was delayed, until it was a 2+ month backorder and I was in danger of running out of salt.
I called the vendor who said that Tropic Marin was having issues getting them salt. So, I changed my order and got 3 of the 200 gallon boxes of Reef Crystals for less than what 2 buckets of TM Pro would have been. And after reading these additional concerns, I will stay clear of TM Pro.
Recently, a large online vendor was offering free shipping and a 10% discount on orders above $150 for Black Friday. I figured I would give TM Pro another try, and placed an order for two buckets. Keep in mind, this was the weekend following Thanksgiving. The salt was on backorder, but only for a few days (at first). Twice afterward it was delayed, until it was a 2+ month backorder and I was in danger of running out of salt.
I called the vendor who said that Tropic Marin was having issues getting them salt. So, I changed my order and got 3 of the 200 gallon boxes of Reef Crystals for less than what 2 buckets of TM Pro would have been. And after reading these additional concerns, I will stay clear of TM Pro.
jonnybravo22
New member
for everyone that has thought TM was the best for years and are now switching, what are you switching to?
what is the new best salt in your opinion?
what is the new best salt in your opinion?
Hans-Werner
Member
Eric,
12250 is the last batch of the batch numbers you give. It is produced end of June last year. Pencil3 reports 8 - 8.5° KH from exactly the same batch.
Nick,
the different look comes from the different calcium salt. At the moment I do not know how the calcium salt could affect KH.
Like Velvet Sea states different test kits may show different KHs. We use our Tropic Marin KH/Alkalinity Test to check the saltwater prepared with our salts.
If some of you have problems to change the hardened salt at your lfs, please contac Lou Ekus at office@tropicmarin-usa.com .
Hans-Werner
12250 is the last batch of the batch numbers you give. It is produced end of June last year. Pencil3 reports 8 - 8.5° KH from exactly the same batch.
Nick,
the different look comes from the different calcium salt. At the moment I do not know how the calcium salt could affect KH.
Like Velvet Sea states different test kits may show different KHs. We use our Tropic Marin KH/Alkalinity Test to check the saltwater prepared with our salts.
If some of you have problems to change the hardened salt at your lfs, please contac Lou Ekus at office@tropicmarin-usa.com .
Hans-Werner
Hans-Werner
Member
Just one more comment to the posting of Sherri: It is absolutely impossible to get a tank from let´s say 8° KH to 5° KH within a month with a salt that has maybe 5° KH except you change the water completely. If you change 4 times 10% in a month your complete water change may be 35% (because you also change water already changed). So you have 65% 8° and 35% 5°. This would result in a KH of 7°. There must be another cause and I suspect there are others that now attribute changes to the PRO-REEF salt when in fact the change is in the test kit or the salinity.
We had several reports about low magnesium in PRO-REEF in Germany when in fact the salinity was low caused by a refractometer boom and the salinity adjusted with the refractometers was low in many cases. This was exclusively in Germany, no reports from UK or US.
This time we have reports only from US, not a single report from Germany.
Hans-Werner
We had several reports about low magnesium in PRO-REEF in Germany when in fact the salinity was low caused by a refractometer boom and the salinity adjusted with the refractometers was low in many cases. This was exclusively in Germany, no reports from UK or US.
This time we have reports only from US, not a single report from Germany.
Hans-Werner
Mental1
New member
Thank you Hans -- as we all know there are several potential causes of Alk dropping and I did have a calcium reactor malfunction. But that doesn't explain the low Alk in my mixed water -- it was between 5 and 6.5. I have been dosing baking soda to get my mixed water to where I want it to be. I will calibrate my refractometer again using salt and not pure water, mix some water to 1.026 and post my results. There seems to be a lot of people here noticing a change in the results from the salt. Something has happened!
Hans-Werner
Member
Ok, Sherri,
if something is affecting the alkalinity in our PRO-REEF salt we will find it out and readjust the alkalinity. The formula has not been changed.
Hans-Werner
if something is affecting the alkalinity in our PRO-REEF salt we will find it out and readjust the alkalinity. The formula has not been changed.
Hans-Werner
Mental1
New member
Hans -- I am actually using BioActif -- not Pro-Reef. Again. I am more than happy to use whatever test you like, heat to whatever temperature you want me to, agitate in an acceptable way, and calibrate my refractometer. I would also like to understand what has happened. I have been a faithful TM user for many years.
sslak
New member
I had been using TMP for a long time and I recently purchased a bucket of Reef Crystals because I just didn't want to pay the extra price for TMP.
I was amazed how much faster and easier Reef Crystals dissolved than my most recent batch of TMP. I always was happy with the salt, but it was a pain to mix because there would always be undisolved salt in the bottom of the mixing tub, my MJ900 wasn't enough.
FWIW I think the ALK of my most recent bucket was between 7-8
I was amazed how much faster and easier Reef Crystals dissolved than my most recent batch of TMP. I always was happy with the salt, but it was a pain to mix because there would always be undisolved salt in the bottom of the mixing tub, my MJ900 wasn't enough.
FWIW I think the ALK of my most recent bucket was between 7-8
Shak
Premium Member
well that explains it
well that explains it
I have been doing research on which salt to switch to as my last bucket of TMP arrived as a brick and I've had to chip it out for the last month or two to do my water changes. I have used TMP faithfully and have been nothing but happy until this last bucket. Guess I'll call Marine Depot tomorrow and see if they will help me out with this bad bucket.
well that explains it
I have been doing research on which salt to switch to as my last bucket of TMP arrived as a brick and I've had to chip it out for the last month or two to do my water changes. I have used TMP faithfully and have been nothing but happy until this last bucket. Guess I'll call Marine Depot tomorrow and see if they will help me out with this bad bucket.
Mikey122687
New member
I got a couple friends that used the recent TMP and his tank went down the hill. Told them to swap to RC and its all fine again
300 Gallons of RO/DI water with Tropic Marin ReefPro Salt Mix after 4-5 days of mixing, the TMP is NOT right.
The salinity is at 1.024 but the water looks Murky.
Undissolved Tropic Marin Salt Mix residue after 4 days of mixing.
I am done with TMP! I am starting over I am draining the tank. :furious:
What Salt mix should I try guys, please help me out and give me some advice.
Maik1
The salinity is at 1.024 but the water looks Murky.
Undissolved Tropic Marin Salt Mix residue after 4 days of mixing.
I am done with TMP! I am starting over I am draining the tank. :furious:
What Salt mix should I try guys, please help me out and give me some advice.
Maik1
this is me
Active member
I've pulled out some of my badly RTNing sps colony and I'm slowing transitioning to Reef Crystal. Bought a 50gal bag to try it out and see how it goes.
I will not look at TMP again. They've lost me. I will use the remaining TMP bucket that I just for melting the ice on my driveway.
I will not look at TMP again. They've lost me. I will use the remaining TMP bucket that I just for melting the ice on my driveway.
I have used Tropic Marin for years and have noticed recent hardening but not terribly concerned about it. Hydroscopic salts are shipped through Atlanta during last summers summer will pick up water. You just pull it out drop it on floor and continue.
The above picture shows undissolved calcium carbonate. Just no big deal guys!
My tank has done great this last year and calcium demand continually increases. I intend to try new 2/3 part powdered mix when Bulk Reef Supply runs out.
Here are positives I have seen from switching to TMP few years ago.
Black and tan feather dusters have produced rapidly-desirable species, Make up tank does not get a rim of dirty calcium carbonate like IO salts. Higher quality salts dissolve clear and fast. A little calcium carbonate remains lately.
Switch if you like and drain a 300 gallon tank. But I think it is just not necessary or related.
The above picture shows undissolved calcium carbonate. Just no big deal guys!
My tank has done great this last year and calcium demand continually increases. I intend to try new 2/3 part powdered mix when Bulk Reef Supply runs out.
Here are positives I have seen from switching to TMP few years ago.
Black and tan feather dusters have produced rapidly-desirable species, Make up tank does not get a rim of dirty calcium carbonate like IO salts. Higher quality salts dissolve clear and fast. A little calcium carbonate remains lately.
Switch if you like and drain a 300 gallon tank. But I think it is just not necessary or related.
Alex T.
Active member
slow leak, I've never heard anything of higher quality salts dissolving faster. In fact, I've always been told and read that it was quite the opposite. Fast dissolving salts have added clarifying agents....just one more component in a salt mix. If this were true, Oceanic would be one of the best salt mixes around.
I have read all sorts of things about salts.
check ammonia level of fresh io if you want to be concerned about something or look at scum on all the walls of an io mix tank that has not been cleaned out recently.
A difference was perceived. I am not clear anything was actually wrong.
check ammonia level of fresh io if you want to be concerned about something or look at scum on all the walls of an io mix tank that has not been cleaned out recently.
A difference was perceived. I am not clear anything was actually wrong.
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