history of lunar's reef

Thanks Krzysztof.

In the past I read You give much importance to food and I remember You think it's better to give lot of food and that You can manage it thanks to biopellet.

So do You think it is better to administer food and add fishes accordingly to inorganics values, so to avoid they raise, or it is better to progressively increase food (and eventually fishes) and consequenlty increase NBP if inorganics raise up?

Thanks.

Luca

It's better to do any changes gradually, changes in quantity of fish or in amount of food as well. When your PO4 and NO3 levels increase then add more pellets. So the second option is good.

Krzysztof
 
Thanks Krzysztof,
so I'll do that way.

Do You remove water daily to avoid increase of salinity? If You don't do that, have You ever thought to do it and periodically test water from Triton lab to see if water change are really needed? (15% WC weekly on your tank is a significant cost).

I think I'll do lab water testing from Triton and add selectively and precisely lacking elements, avoiding programmed water change.

Luca
 
Thanks Krzysztof,
so I'll do that way.

Do You remove water daily to avoid increase of salinity? If You don't do that, have You ever thought to do it and periodically test water from Triton lab to see if water change are really needed? (15% WC weekly on your tank is a significant cost).

I think I'll do lab water testing from Triton and add selectively and precisely lacking elements, avoiding programmed water change.

Luca

No, I don't remove water daily. Yes, I thought to test my water at Triton lab and I'll come to Germany in the middle of September and I'm going to visit Triton lab as well. Two of my friends who have similar systems, the same saltmix, the same additives, all in one biopellets too and biogro 123 bacteria tested their water at Triton lab. The results are very good, so I suppose that my results are close. However I want to be sure and I'm going to test my water too.
As for changes water, I don't do them only to replenish microelements but first of all in order to refresh water, reduce possible toxins, remove detritus, etc.

Krzysztof
 
No, I don't remove water daily. Yes, I thought to test my water at Triton lab and I'll come to Germany in the middle of September and I'm going to visit Triton lab as well. Two of my friends who have similar systems, the same saltmix, the same additives, all in one biopellets too and biogro 123 bacteria tested their water at Triton lab. The results are very good, so I suppose that my results are close. However I want to be sure and I'm going to test my water too.
As for changes water, I don't do them only to replenish microelements but first of all in order to refresh water, reduce possible toxins, remove detritus, etc.

Krzysztof

My friend Mirek agreed to publish the findings of his tank water. You can see how they look like:







Krzysztof
 
What does his tank look like, Krzysztof?

Mo, I don't have a photo of his tank but I can share a picture of my other friend - Gregory. Gregory's system is similar to Mirek's tank and mine. Sorry for the low quality of the photo, I took it with iphone.



Krzysztof
 
Oh my!. :blown:
What lights/ filtration?. What dimensions on the tank?.

Now I need to see Mirek's tank as well!"¦.


Mo
 
Krzystzof,
Can You give me a comment about zero nutrient (your friend has zero N and P) and correlation with growth and health?

Do You think that health and growth is mostly correlated to water quality, rather than nutrients availability? Does your friend feed a lot like You and He is able to mantain zero N and P using NBP?

I'm trying to find the "right way" focusing my efforts on the most important target. I Hope You can understand the true sense of my question.

Thanks.

Luca
 
Oh my!. :blown:
What lights/ filtration?. What dimensions on the tank?.

Now I need to see Mirek's tank as well!"¦.


Mo

Gregory's three-year system:

dimensions: 168x80x55

ATI powermodule dimm with Pacific sun T5 tubes mostly: 2 x pigment int, 2 x spectra plus, 1 x shallow water, 3 x crystal blue and 2 x Fauna Marin Ultra Royal blue
skimmer: Red skim 250
Live rocks, bb, Fauna marin activated carbon, all in one biopellets in a recirculating reactor
saltmix: Fauna Marin Professional sea salt
simple balling, not full (Fauna Marin calcium mix, carbonat mix, magnesium mix)
additives: Fauna Marin color elements, Salifert Coralline aminoacids, bacteria Biogro 123

I'll ask Mirek for a photo.

Krzysztof
 
Mo, I don't have a photo of his tank but I can share a picture of my other friend - Gregory. Gregory's system is similar to Mirek's tank and mine. Sorry for the low quality of the photo, I took it with iphone.



Krzysztof

also very beautiful

next time returning from Białystok I would love to see these systems
 
Krzystzof,
Can You give me a comment about zero nutrient (your friend has zero N and P) and correlation with growth and health?

Do You think that health and growth is mostly correlated to water quality, rather than nutrients availability? Does your friend feed a lot like You and He is able to mantain zero N and P using NBP?

I'm trying to find the "right way" focusing my efforts on the most important target. I Hope You can understand the true sense of my question.

Thanks.

Luca

Firstly, let me explain it once more. There are three different sorts of biopellets from the Netherlands: NP reducing biopellets, NP reducing biopellets XL and All in one biopellets. NPB and NPB XL remove mostly N from water and P only to some degree. But All in one biopellets fights against P and N. We all have been using All in one biopellets for some time and we are able to mantain zero P and N.
In my opinion you need a bit of N and P and that is the reason why we use All in one biopellets in a recirculating reactor. We can decrease the outflow from the reactor if we get 0 readings. It causes that N and P rise a bit. We feed more then as well. Not only test readings show 0 level of P and N, if you look at your sps corals you can see that, your corals lose the intensity of their colours. Yes, I think that water quality and good lights are mostly responsible for health and colour, but not at absolute 0 level.

Krzysztof
 
Krzysztof,
Let me write what I understand from your answer. Maybe I understand what I'm already convinced of missing what You are trying to say.
Water quality is fundamental to achieve health, growth and colour. Without that We can't reach those results, independently from nutrients level.
The more the inorganic is low, the more bright and vivid will be coral's colors, but they must not be absolute zero, otherwise they will loose intensity. Through the use of All in one BP, flow regulation of their reactor and quantity of administered food, You keep nutrients always available.

Luca
 
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