Holy cow ! Light bulb of the future

Neat. After watching the video, I wonder if the bulb requires the same size fixture as the halide. The bulb looks small, but the fixture it was used in looked rather large. Possibly to dissipate heat? Anyway, I would love to see more info on this technology. Thanks for the link.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12160425#post12160425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TWINPEAKS
Interested on the energy useage as plasma tv's use more energy than most tv's and put off more heat.

I am not sure if plasmas necessarily put off more heat it's just that fact that they are very thin/small and the parts that put off heat are much closer to the surface.

Also from my Monster clean power centers on my sets, they don't really use much more energy either. The 34" XBR CRT on a near white screen uses about 1.2 amps of power while the Poineer elite 50" on the same screen uses 1.9 amps, there is a difference but there is also a size difference.

Either way there are a lot of questions that I would loved answered about the lights, i just heard that they "claim" 30,000 hours of life on them, But I would definitly be worried about heat, they had that small bulb in a very big housing!
 
In the video they say that the plasma used to run this thing heats up to 6000K which is the same temperature as the sun!!!
 
He says the plasmas temperature is close to 6000K which is the same as the sun... that's why the color temperature of the bulb is almost the same as the sun...Two seperate things...

The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a temperature of 6,000°C (11,000°F) (C + 273.15=°K).

BK
 
OK, I understand that most things that use the word "plasma" in their description are probably very hot. I just can't fathom the bulb dissipating that much heat(6000C+) in any direction. Wouldn't the fixture it's mounted in just melt? Incandescent light bulbs (filament) get very hot inside of the glass, but not outside...

I'm confused now. Guess I'm gonna have to watch the video again.

Has anyone found any more info about these bulbs?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12163709#post12163709 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by logiktest
OK, I understand that most things that use the word "plasma" in their description are probably very hot. I just can't fathom the bulb dissipating that much heat(6000C+) in any direction. Wouldn't the fixture it's mounted in just melt? Incandescent light bulbs (filament) get very hot inside of the glass, but not outside...

I'm confused now. Guess I'm gonna have to watch the video again.

Has anyone found any more info about these bulbs?

I have 2 14K bulbs over my tank. When I turn on my lights, my bones explode!! :)

6K is the color temperature, not the actual temperature of the unit.
 
i've just watched it 6 times in a row and the guy did say " the temp of the plasma inside the center of the chamber will be 6000 Kelvin temp" All i know if i received 40 million in funds i might have a good idea or two as well. I've done some pretty heavy searching and pretty well everything i have found is all the same info It will use 250 watts but what the hell is that puck made of?
The gas reaches the temp not anything else. Now how they can contain that temp inside anything i have no idea
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12163804#post12163804 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spike78
I have 2 14K bulbs over my tank. When I turn on my lights, my bones explode!! :)

6K is the color temperature, not the actual temperature of the unit.

spike78, don't you mean your bones "vaporized"? I had that happen to me once... but I'm OK now. :D
 
Every time I turn on my MH bulbs above my tank they reach a VISIBLE temperature equal to 14,000 Kelvin that is why it is a 14k bulb, I think he is referring to the same process.

The difference is they say on there website that plasma bulbs truly reproduce every color of the spectrum up to the color requested (which typically for there instance is only 5500k since the company produces bulbs for projectors, and the isf standard is 5780k)
 
No, when the plasma emits light, at the tiny center of it, it reaches the same TEMPERATURE of the surface sun. On a very tiny spot, but the temp gets up there. You might be surprised how hot the very center of a mh gets.

They were stating that it emits a FULL spectrum but not what "percieved color" the bulb looks to us. The example bulb looks to be a typical 5-10000k bulb. The confusion is that our bulbs are color rated by the color of a blackbody as it's heated.

"The Kelvin scale describes the color of a light source when compared to the color a theoretical "blackbody" radiates when heated at the same temperature. Think of a piece of steel that changes color as it is heated, then measuring the color of the light being given off. "
 
No way, he is talking about the temperature of the plasma itself not the color. If the color temperature was 6600 in that demo the thing would have been yellow looking. There are 4 states of matter: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. Plasma only occurs when a gas is heated to extreme temperatures. From Howstuffworks.com:

"If you boost a gas to extremely high temperatures, you get plasma. The energy begins to break apart the gas molecules, and the atoms begin to split. Normal atoms are made up of protons and neutrons in the nucleus (see How Atoms Work), surrounded by a cloud of electrons. In plasma, the electrons separate from the nucleus. Once the energy of heat releases the electrons from the atom, the electrons begin to move around quickly. The electrons are negatively charged, and they leave behind their positively charged nuclei. These positively charged nuclei are known as ions.

When the fast-moving electrons collide with other electrons and ions, they release vast amounts of energy. This energy is what gives plasma its unique status and unbelievable cutting power."

That quote is about a plasma cutter that heats gas to 17,000k to cut through metal like its butter, while the lighting company isnt cutting anything, they arent going as hot either. But if its a PLASMA based light, it is definitely heating some type of gas up to some crazy temperature to produce the reaction....probably 6600K.
 
"Inside the mint-sized bulb the gas reaches 6000-degrees Kelvin -- or about the surface temperature of the Sun"

That is the actual temperature of plasma when emitting the light. Very small area, but it's really that hot.
 
Just for reference, this is inside the metal halide bulb:

"Common operating conditions inside the arc tube are 70-90 PSI (480-620 kPa) and 2000 °F (1090 °C)."
 
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