I don't get designer clownfish
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RiffeShooter
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Yup, you and ninjamini would think I am crazy.:spin1: I bought a pair of Grade A DaVinci clowns 2 weeks ago and throughout the last two weeks I've been buying a bunch of zoas from locals as well as some high end zoas most of which I'll be picking up tomorrow. I did pay $250 for one polyp of a particular zoa, but as someone else said... whatever gets you excited I guess.:spin2:
For the same reason I shelled out $70,000 for an E class Mercedes a few years ago. The car is now worth a FRACTION of what I paid for it brand new....
But damn do I look good going down the street. Also, car has some serious horsepower and is faster than 90% of what's out there.
Only reason I got the $12 clowns for myself.....is that I'm still new to the hobby and I don't want to chance a screw up with a $200 fish.
But I have seen some super cool looking clowns at the reef-a-pallooza and one day I plan on buying a pair.
BonsaiNut
Premium Member
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me, a clown has to be healthy and have perfect conformation before I will even glance at it. Many/most designer clowns I can tell are tank-raised instantly because the quality is poor. Not all - but most.
And that is part of the reason for the cost. Any fool can raise clownfish. But to raise them correctly takes a TON of knowledge, attention to detail, and LABOR. A lot of "get rich quick" hobbyists think they can buy two expensive clowns, get them to reproduce, and make $$$. But it is never as easy as it looks.... trust me.
What about those of us who aren't "get rich quick", but rather "get rich with a little bit of intelligence, luck and effort"
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Is there money to be made in purchasing expensive clowns, then raising them for a little side cash?
I own an SEO company, we get websites ranked high. I could set up a website and get it ranked fast.
I am still new to the hobby, but am learning and reading voraciously as I go along here. I'm waiting for my clowns to sex themselves, then will attempt to breed them and then give away the babies to good homes (I don't believe in killing fish).
If that works, my plan was to take what I learned, buy some good equipment and then give it another shot.
D-Nak
Active member
Raising clowns is just the opposite of SEO. You can't just set up shop and expect results. It takes a long time to breed clowns that are of high quality -- meaning with minimal defects. By the time you have clown babies that are high quality the rarity of the particular clown may be less, meaning more are available and the price is much lower.
What Bonsai means is that people expect to buy clowns and sell the babies at the same prices that the parents were, even though the babies look like crap. Unfortunately, a lot of people care more about patterns than they do about body structure, fin length, and overall stature of the fish.
What Bonsai means is that people expect to buy clowns and sell the babies at the same prices that the parents were, even though the babies look like crap. Unfortunately, a lot of people care more about patterns than they do about body structure, fin length, and overall stature of the fish.
So basically you're saying that only a genetic mutation that can be successfully bred and passed down from parent to child is a fish worth money (along with the applicable constructs of what makes a good fish....fin length/etc et al).
Genetic mutation meaning a particularly cool looking pattern that is hard if not impossible to replicate?
Regarding SEO....
Actually, we don't "set up shop and expect results". We put in 12 hour days and over the course of many many many months, we see the desired results. This is why SEO costs thousands of dollars a month, and we cannot (ethically) guarantee results.
You're probably thinking of the fly-by-night SEO guys, of which there are a ton, and there are probably a ton of fly-by-night "fish breeders" out there looking to turn a quick buck.
But I digress.....so when comparing fish breeding to SEO.....yeah, it looks like a very similar comparison to me: It costs a ton, there's no guarantees and it's in an industry that has a ton of snake oil salesman in it.
I was merely curious as to whether or not fish breeding could be a profitable enterprise for the right individual who has the gumption, money and desire to stick it out for a few months if not a few years.
That type of mentality is how I have made my money over the years.
Buying expensive or rare fish and high-end corals makes you feel better about yourself and is a status symbol among other reefers. You get to brag to all of your friends about how much you spent and all non-reefers stare at you in awe because you spent that kind of money on a tiny fish. Kinda like the guy who buys a $70k car and brags about it on a fish forum.
'Duh.
'Duh.
Allmost
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OrionN
Moved on
70K on a car is like $50.00 clown fish.
I got a friend who just got a used Mercedes Convertable for 180,000.00 He told me a new one is about 250,000.00
I am not into cars so I did not even pay attention to model so I don't know. I am sure there are cars out there that are even more expensive.
I got a friend who just got a used Mercedes Convertable for 180,000.00 He told me a new one is about 250,000.00
I am not into cars so I did not even pay attention to model so I don't know. I am sure there are cars out there that are even more expensive.
"bragging" and "making a point" are two different things....just because you're jealous, doesn't give you the right to slam others.
Why don't you try to get out there in life and make something of yourself, instead of talking **** over an internet forum? That way you too can afford nicer things in life....instead of sitting under your troll bridge stamping your feet very loudly.
Just making a suggestion here...
Are you in Australia by any chance? I was out there a few years ago....I saw an entry level mercedes sitting in the parking lot of a dealership as I was walking by in the Melbourne CBD.
I thought there was an error on the price sign on the car.....so out of curiosity, I walked into the office and told the guy his employee had made a mistake in pricing that entry level Mercedes at $90,000.
He said there was no mistake, this is how much cars cost out there due to government taxes.
I was in Cairns a few weeks later and saw someone in a BMW M3 and I instantly realized that person probably had more money in the coin slot in their dashboard than I had in all of my bank accounts.
Have heard rumors M3's cost upwards of $200k out there in Australia.
a lfs had a pair of clowns for $1500. a few weeks ago i saw a website selling some clowns for $3500+ :eek1::eek1::eek1:
Price aside, I'm usually the first person to admit how much I dislike designer clowns, but those gold nugget maroon clowns on LADD right now are pretty darn cool! I suspect I like them because the pattern is actually symmetrical, unlike the paint splatter look of so many designer clowns.
shifty51008
12-5 Chiefs record
there are plenty of clowns that sell for a pretty penny:
A. Omanensis
A. thiellei
A. Latezonatus
A. Latifasciatus
A. Mccullochi
A. chrysogaster
and those arn't even designer clowns
:lolspin: I was being sarcastic buddy! Face it, a lot of people pay big money for designer clowns just so they can brag about how much they spent. Same with corals. Sorry I so easily ruffled your feathers.
Agreed! That one is pretty nice! I'm guessing it would ultimately sport the same 'tude as any Maroon clown once it got bigger. It would be funny to see that cutie attacking my hand!! :lmao:
It would also be amazing to see this fish full grown!
