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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14237768#post14237768 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kc350twin
Please keep us informed about the Tunze testing. I would much rather wait to see if those work. I have heard they are very quiet.

Is there a estimated time for testing?



Thanks
Kc3

I was @ John's store a couple weeks ago and was talking to him about his skimmers. Sounded like the Tunze was too much for the smaller skimmer as it was bubbling over as we talked. I know these are John's creation, but I would really consider a gate valve to control air allowed to the venturi.
My QO3000 (heavily modified) throws 30-35SCFH unthrottled and I tone it down to ~16SCFH. The Tunze motor may work if heavily throttled back....

Just My $0.02,
DW302
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14244354#post14244354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DeathWish302
I was @ John's store a couple weeks ago and was talking to him about his skimmers. Sounded like the Tunze was too much for the smaller skimmer as it was bubbling over as we talked. I know these are John's creation, but I would really consider a gate valve to control air allowed to the venturi.
My QO3000 (heavily modified) throws 30-35SCFH unthrottled and I tone it down to ~16SCFH. The Tunze motor may work if heavily throttled back....

Just My $0.02,
DW302

I think the test you saw was with the 9420 which will likely be used on the Mediums. AFAIK, the 9410s aren't out yet and these are a little lower on the flow side, so the idea is that they'd work better with the small/100.

The problem with throttling back air to a great degree is that your air/water ratio drops which means that the overall throughput could become more turbulent due to more water pressure/volume being present.

I don't disagree that tuning the airflow of a pump to the skimmer is important. But if the pump pushes too much water for the skimmer to begin with, reducing the airflow probably won't be the ultimate solution.

Chris
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14245109#post14245109 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by flat broke
I think the test you saw was with the 9420 which will likely be used on the Mediums. AFAIK, the 9410s aren't out yet and these are a little lower on the flow side, so the idea is that they'd work better with the small/100.

The problem with throttling back air to a great degree is that your air/water ratio drops which means that the overall throughput could become more turbulent due to more water pressure/volume being present.

I don't disagree that tuning the airflow of a pump to the skimmer is important. But if the pump pushes too much water for the skimmer to begin with, reducing the airflow probably won't be the ultimate solution.

Chris

Agreed! There is a happy medium between throttling air and flow rate for a specific size skimmer.

DW302
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14220414#post14220414 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jimmyd01
That was the first 12hrs. of running, much smaller now.

can you post another picture of skimmer in action?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14247298#post14247298 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dzhuo
can you post another picture of skimmer in action?

Sure can, how's it look now?
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the bubbles look finer now but could be smaller (?) are you still in break in period? skimmate production seems to be light as well.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14251037#post14251037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dzhuo
the bubbles look finer now but could be smaller (?) are you still in break in period? skimmate production seems to be light as well.

This is on a new 125gal. with only 4 fish and about 150lbs. of live rock. So I wouldn't expect the black nog you would see on a well established tank with a heavy bio-load.
 
I have already stated that I ordered a small. Also wanted to let people know that I went with the DAS pump. Im still waiting for the smalls to be finished, and Id much rather wait for a quality product than to be impatient and get a product that was rushed.

How is the quality of the build? I haven't even seen what a small looks like yet, just the top of the collection cup I think.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14276194#post14276194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mightymizz
I have already stated that I ordered a small. Also wanted to let people know that I went with the DAS pump. Im still waiting for the smalls to be finished, and Id much rather wait for a quality product than to be impatient and get a product that was rushed.

How is the quality of the build? I haven't even seen what a small looks like yet, just the top of the collection cup I think.

I'm waiting on a small too. Trying to be patient. I was hoping to hear about some people getting theirs already. Kinda makes me a bit nervous since it seems like no one has gotten one recently. Hopefully I'll hear something soon. The skimmers look awesome, I just want to see some more people with them :) I'm planning on running my small with a sedra since I already have one off of my ASM. It'll be overkill for my tank, but that's ok. Got my fingers crossed that I'll hear something this coming up week.
 
+ 3 on the small . Still waiting . He sent a pic of the progress on the small bodies . I think he is a lil under the weather now and trying to recover .I will be using a Aquabee 2000/1 off my ole DAS BX skimmer . Funny how my other skimmer is running like a champ now . It must know it's days are numbered.
 
Ive got complete confidence in John so far. He mentioned that the next batch of smalls "might" be getting close to being ready by end of this week, but Im very patient. Even if it takes another 2 weeks, like I said, Id rather have quality that getting something that's been rushed.

So far all of my communication with John back and forth has been GREAT.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14276135#post14276135 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dzhuo
how is everyone's skimmer doing?
My large is doing great! Such an easy skimmer to tune and clean.

The patience is worth it. The skimmers are great. John is definitely the guy to deal with. Us locals all know that.
 
Can't wait as well, but I need to find a venturi for this dang DAS Aquabee 2000/1 pump. Not even Petorama can get me one. It's been 2 days since I spoke to an employee at Petorama and he said he needed "a few more days" to get a venturi for me... I don't understand why it's so difficult to get venturi's for these pumps. Why don't the pumps come with venturi's? Is it the skimmer that has the venturi and you attach a regular needlewheel to it? Seems silly... At least when you order a sedra needlewheel pump, it comes with a venturi!
 
I'm on the list for a small as well, and I'm hoping to get good news about a shipment soon. John has been great with follow up anytime I email him, so I have no doubts whatsoever about my decision to go this route. As stated he was under the weather, but progress is being made on the skimmers.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14277743#post14277743 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SHOmuchFUN
Can't wait as well, but I need to find a venturi for this dang DAS Aquabee 2000/1 pump. Not even Petorama can get me one. It's been 2 days since I spoke to an employee at Petorama and he said he needed "a few more days" to get a venturi for me... I don't understand why it's so difficult to get venturi's for these pumps. Why don't the pumps come with venturi's? Is it the skimmer that has the venturi and you attach a regular needlewheel to it? Seems silly... At least when you order a sedra needlewheel pump, it comes with a venturi!

As far as a venturi, your best bet is to make one. If you have access to a lathe or a mill, you could make one styled after the Coralvue Sicce Venturi.
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If you don't have a lathe or a mill, you can still make something similar but using a drill press/hand drill and a dremel tool. You can buy Delrin or PVC bar stock from most plastic suppliers, and a foot would be waaaaay more than enough. Drill the back side with a paddle bit close to, but below the I.D. needed to snap onto the inlet of the pump. Use the dremel to open it up just enough to have a good interference fit. Next use something like a 1/8" straight carbide bit to open up the channel that surrounds the restriction. Drill a hole for your opening and use a countersink to add your taper. Everyone always says, "I could do that if I had a mill or a lathe". People built things from materials far harder than plastic without a mill or a lathe in the past. It just takes time, patience, and skill. (not to mention a little trial and error :) )

If you wanted to go totally gheto fabulous, you could do a venturi out of a cap like I posted earlier in the thread, or you could use a threaded plug (I'm guessing 3/4" would work but might need a coat of teflon tape). Drill a hole in the face of the plug to the I.D. you want for your restriction, then thread the plug in. Drill a hole through the side of the inlet and plug to insert your air intake just behind the restriction. Obviously this way is easier in terms of imparting restriction, but you have to drill a hole in what could be a hard to replace volute cover. Additionally you restrict the waterflow at the initial restriction, but also by way of the plug in the inlet. If you use the link I posted earlier with the animated venturi model you can play with, you can see how this will influence water/airflow as there will be two pressure/velocity rate changes instead of one.

Hope that helps,
Chris
 
Been thinking about getting the medium with the Sicce pump.
How do you adjust the water level in the mediums? Is there a gate valve on them or some other way to adjust?
I will also agree that John gets back to emails very quickly and gives you all the info you need. I would email him the above question but figure that would take time away from building everyone's skimmers!
 
The pipe on top of the drain "T" turns to adjust water level. There is a white pin on the pipe and white dots on the bracket for reference.

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Flat, thanks for all your help...
I contacted Marvin from D-D USA and he said he has a venturi that would fit. Cost me $39, but figured it's not something I constantly want to wonder about. I don't feel comfortable making my own venturi.

The reason for buying this setup is so I don't always wonder if it's performing up to snuff or not. I figure if the last TOTM uses this setup, I know that my skimmer won't be the excuse for not having a beautiful reef.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14301650#post14301650 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SHOmuchFUN
Flat, thanks for all your help...
I contacted Marvin from D-D USA and he said he has a venturi that would fit. Cost me $39, but figured it's not something I constantly want to wonder about. I don't feel comfortable making my own venturi.

The reason for buying this setup is so I don't always wonder if it's performing up to snuff or not. I figure if the last TOTM uses this setup, I know that my skimmer won't be the excuse for not having a beautiful reef.

That's cool that you were able to find a venturi specifically designed for that pump. You'll have to post some pictures and dimensions when you get it in. I totally hear you about the "no question marks" philosophy, so no worries there. I'm just waiting for John's email saying my small is ready to go.

Chris
 
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