I've got the ich paranoia

[Zacktosterone]

I have a kole tang, solar wrasse, and a coral beauty all in quarantine right now because they're new. I prophylacticly treat my new comers aggressively. So far they are in their second week, going on third in the QT. I'm dosing cupramine and prazipro at the same time (yes you can do this no problem) the problem is, Ive seen the casual spot on my fish's fin. Looks like debris but could be ich. The cuppramine is at full dosage. So I took my coral beauty out of the tank and wiped his fin off, the spot was gone, same thing happened to the Solar wrasse but on a different fin. I took him our and wiped off his fin. So this is driving me crazy I think that they're may be ich in their but how right? A gramma was in there but unfortunately perrished with ich. They were still in copper, the shipping was probably too much. they're due to go in soon, I'm asking for any thoughts or reassurance.

 

[HumbleFish]

If there was a gramma in there that died of Ich, then rest assured there were free swimming parasites in your QT water that made their way onto your other fish. I would ramp the Cupramine up to 0.5 and leave it there for one solid month. It can take up to one month (or sometimes even longer) of copper treatment to eradicate all of the theronts.

 

[Zacktosterone]

If there was a gramma in there that died of Ich, then rest assured there were free swimming parasites in your QT water that made their way onto your other fish. I would ramp the Cupramine up to 0.5 and leave it there for one solid month. It can take up to one month (or sometimes even longer) of copper treatment to eradicate all of the theronts.

Ive concluded that. And it has been at .5 for a solid week. I'll be doing a water change to take out the pazi pro and refresh the water quality on friday. I'll be replacing the cupramine dosage of course

 

[Zacktosterone]

Interestingly, I had a coral beauty before that I quarantined for a month and I put him in, he actually contracted ich and died. This was 6 months ago. I didn't get a single case afterwards

 

[triggreef]

If you mean by "put him in" you put him in your display, and he got ich... Then you have ich in your display. The fish in your display may have built up an immunity temporarily so they appear unaffected but it will come back.

If thats the case then you need to do a 12 week fallow in your display. Also I always move treated fish out of the current system prior to removing copper. I never understood why some people treat with copper and then remove the copper and observe the fish. You'd have to observe for 3 to 4 months before knowing if ich has reinfected since the removal of copper. If you really feel an observation period is needed, then remove the fish from the copper treated tank and put it directly into an observation tank. Heck even that way, theoretically it could have had one parasite in its gill or some where unseen, you move it to a fresh tank, and it could drop off the fish, cyst up, and hatch 11 weeks later in your clean tank.

 

[Zacktosterone]

I know what the procedure is. But I'm not going to disturb the display until it comes back (if it does) and i agree, it doest make sense to me either. but I am prepared. I find it interesting that Ive never found a single spot

 

[Zacktosterone]

If you mean by "put him in" you put him in your display, and he got ich... Then you have ich in your display. The fish in your display may have built up an immunity temporarily so they appear unaffected but it will come back.

If thats the case then you need to do a 12 week fallow in your display. Also I always move treated fish out of the current system prior to removing copper. I never understood why some people treat with copper and then remove the copper and observe the fish. You'd have to observe for 3 to 4 months before knowing if ich has reinfected since the removal of copper. If you really feel an observation period is needed, then remove the fish from the copper treated tank and put it directly into an observation tank. Heck even that way, theoretically it could have had one parasite in its gill or some where unseen, you move it to a fresh tank, and it could drop off the fish, cyst up, and hatch 11 weeks later in your clean tank.

Why do we even quarantine then? Lol seriously right?

 

[ca1ore]

It's about managing the odds. No Practical QT process is going to be 100%, every time. But it is far better than playing roulette with fish directly into the display.

I am extremely diligent about QT yet I suspect ich resides in my display. Only my hippo shows a few spots periodically, so I'm content to do nothing for now, but I'm anticipating (dreading) the day when I'll have to breakdown the tank, remove all my fish, and go fallow for 12 weeks.

If ich is in my tank I have an idea of how. I had a purple tang and a quartet of Bartletts anthias in observation. The purple started to show a few spots so I whisked it into my hospital tank. Continued to observe the anthias for 12 more weeks, no spots, so clean, right? I thought so, but maybe not. Only thing I can think of.

 

[Zacktosterone]

Ive had no issues with my fish

 

[triggreef]

So maybe your clean. Or... maybe not. lol.

It could have just been some sand or debris you saw.