Japanese tanks...(revived)

The debate between import and domestic tanks seems pointless? Why, because if you take for instance "America's" greatest tank and "Japan's" greatest tank than you are left with two completely different and in their own way unique systems attempting to preserve the same goals. I believe the pictures we see of Japanese tanks are among the best of the best.

We see all the beginner tanks on this thread, people just starting and attempting tanks. But the tanks I have seen from Japanese sites are all top notch breeders and care takers, who I am positive have extensive knowledge in the art of reef keeping. This is why I feel it is hard to compare, America's tanks are just as unique as Japanese. I am sure the eastern influence admires our tanks as much as we do their's.


-Mark

Below is an American tank, and a Japanese.
 
Question: Why those Japanese tanks do not have any coralline algae at all? When I started my tank I remember that as soon as I get Ca above 380 the coralline algae started to grow every where.

Eduardo
 
There are a couple things that I hypothesize about this:

1) If you note the lighting systems on many of these tanks, HQI halides are mounted in aimable parabolic reflectors on tracks above the tanks. Much of the supplemental lighting is also in a similar format. This might focus more light on the reef structure, and less on the glass.

2) Spectrum and intensity may have a lot to do with it. Most people that run a lot of 400w Iwasakis don't get much coralline.

3) Diligent maintenance schedules. This applies to many of the top tanks here in the US as well! Many of the tanks of the month here don't have visible coralline on the glass. Whether this is a localized phenomenon centered around picture-taking events is the secret of the reefkeeper. :D

-Jon
 
I have followed this thread from the beginning.

In my opinion the U.S. is very behind in the aquarium industry compared to europe and even japan.

You can find the same things among planted tanks. Over in Europe they have stores that just sell plants with no fish or anything. They have contests where judges come to your home and judge on aquascaping, cleanliness and all sorts of other things.

The market over here isn't the same. Over in Europe and japan they don't have fish chains like petsmart and petco which IMO are ruining the aquarium hobby. It's all about what is available. Everyday aquarists overseas can come across all the technology and information they need just by walking into a petstore. How many of us can say that they can just go into their LFS and be done?

I am starting to ramble a bit but I believe that aquarists in Europe and Japan think our aquascaping is messy...lets just find someone from either place and see what their opinion is on our aquascaping...I believe they will be polite and say they like our aquascaping but they wouldn't compare it to theirs.

again just a ramble,
 
Great thread. ReefDragon those shots you posted are insanely amazing. :eek1: Thanks to all the contributors.


P.S. Wind, I love your sig ani. :)
 
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the site

http://www.cpfarm.com/new/contest3/oubo3.html

cheers,
Joe
 
amazing work....

amazing work....

WOW... :eek1: :eek1: :eek1:

Its like MAGIC.
and I am just learning to shuffle the cards...hahaha
 
Thanks for bringing this back up, Mike. There are still plenty to see that we have not discovered yet. Anyone else find some good ones?
 
alright, I have been saving this one for a special occasion, **** http://www.grouper.co.jp/g_midoriishi1.htm **** My opinion on these tanks is that you are looking at an individuals tank, not a whole country. It is one persons hobby or obsession, and others who are obsessed (like myself:D ) can learn from it and love it or we can leave it.

Nardis

BTW the link is just a gallery of corals, enjoy.
 
No matter how you look at it, the Japanese and Europeans get first dibs on most of the corals distributed. The reason being? They are willing to pay more, and there is a stronger demand in the east than here in the US's. Better corals make for a better looking tank.

-Mark
 
Someone posted above about aimable parabolic reflectors, your right. Check out this pic of the tank, its almost if they are using flood light type set-ups, I wonder if those are some different bulb. Whichever, they look pretty cool. These specific lights run 600 dollars a piece!

-Mark
 
Reefdragon-

I agree wholeheartedly on those cardinals... did you notice the ones in the very first post of the thread?

I went to that cp farms site before but it's foreign and I can't make heads or tails of it, even with the (crappy) translator.

Surely we can get them from somewhere?
 
Ushio America has them. Or something similar anyways. They are similar to the halides we have now, but come in green, blue, yellow, orange, magenta and a couple other colors.

Now if your looking for a bit cheaper alternative, go with MR-16's. Again, Ushio makes these as well. They all come in the same colors above. However they are more universal persay, because they install into track lighting fixtures. They are very bright, the color is superb, and basically you use them to "highlight" your corals, similar to what the japaneese are doing.

HTH's

Kris
 
I must get those cardinals as well!

After poking around for a few mins on Google, I found them listed on Walt Smith's site:

http://www.waltsmith.com/products/fish.html

spp. Apogon Leptacanthus (page 146 of the Scott Michael "Marine Fishes" PocketExpert Guide if anyone else has it).

So if you know a store that buys Walt Smith it looks like you could try and order some of those fish. :)

Cheers,
Keith.
 
absolutc,

Can you please point me in the right direction..if they are available in the us i will get them..oh i will!!! i shall be the idiot to be the first....


Got to be one of the best eye candy thread ever..

Paul
 
Ok here are a couple links for everyone -

www.ushio.com - go to the products section. There you will find the Popstar Colored MR-16's. You will aslo find the Colorlite metal halide bulbs. They come in a couple of varieties - 150w DE and a few others.

Here is the link for the MR-16's - You need Adobe Acrobat to View

http://www.ushio.com/files/PopstarSpecSheet0701.pdf

Here is the link for the Colorlite Metal Halide bulbs - Adobe Acrobat required as well

http://www.ushio.com/files/Colorlite 0302.pdf


I don't know a whole lot about the lighting stuff the japaneese use but what I know for sure is, the lamps they are using are not for coral health. They are used to "enhance" the colors of the corals. Basically shinning blue light on a pale blue coral to make it appear more blue. As with the rest of their corals. I think its a great idea.

Hope these help. BTW - I bought some of the MR-16's.
 
Absolutc,

I found it last night and i have to say ..the mr-16 are intresting and the buld that removes yellow but adds red white and blue..???? isnt that what we have been looking for? i am thinking of ordering some next week..if you get to it before me let me know the outcome..but they do sound like a good way to just make our corals glow alittle better than they do now

Paul
 
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