keeping hedgehogs w/in salt H20 design?

[jellystomper]

Its been known, for quite some time, that hedgehogs and reef animals coexist in a symbiotic relationship as the hedgehogs from coastal regions often wander to tide pools. One example, the "hog" benifits from the Percula clown cleaning parasites and general debris from the "hog" whilst the the hedgehog provides protection for the fish.
Is it possible to maintain hedgehogs in the aqauarium environment?

 

[-=DieselDave=-]

I say what the heck, why not, how about some chickens as well. Just donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t leaven them in to long or they will cause a spike of something nasty when they bloat and rot.

 

[Reefmaniac1]

Re: keeping hedgehogs w/in salt H20 design?

Its been known, for quite some time, that hedgehogs and reef animals coexist in a symbiotic relationship as the hedgehogs from coastal regions often wander to tide pools. One example, the "hog" benifits from the Percula clown cleaning parasites and general debris from the "hog" whilst the the hedgehog provides protection for the fish.
Is it possible to maintain hedgehogs in the aqauarium environment?

I hope that this is a joke...

 

[delor]

How do you acclimate a "hog"? Float em? Drip method? Just drop 'em in and leave 'em alone? Can I put 400 "hogs" in a 10gal tank? How about with a puffer? How often do you have to "slop" the hog?

 

[reed_5point0]

***!

 

[crzy4reefs]

kinda early for april fools jokes

 

[jellystomper]

acclimating hedgehogs

acclimating hedgehogs

SPE934 had wondered about the proper acclimations protocals for coastal hedgehogs. I contacted Dr. Konstantin Petrov at the Wood's Hole project in Bulgaria. He recommended against just "throwing" the "hogs" in the tank. They wouldn't do well because they lack the capacity to derive oxygen from the water.
He insisted, however, that if a hammock were built to dip the hog into the tank periodically this would replicate the natural environment. However, he did contend that if one were to fashion miniaturized scuba gear to the hog this would allow constant interaction between the tank inhabitants and the hog.
Let me know what you discover.
Pictures would help us learn about this unique relationship.
Thanks
Jelly

 

[delor]

Are "hogs" considered Reef Safe or do they need to go in a species only tank? What kind of lighting and flow do they require? Do they eat pellets or do they only eat live food?

 

[PoukieBear]

Your kidding right??

 

[PoukieBear]

lol, i forgott about my sig. i think that sums it up!

 

[Sloth]

I know that porcupines float. Because their spines are hollow. I would imagine hedgehogs would float too. I think you would have to glue the hedgehog to liverock in order to keep it in the water.

Now do these things need direct feedings or can you just add phyto to your sump?

 

[PoukieBear]

I think you would have to glue the hedgehog to liverock in order to keep it in the water.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[baondayko]

Mine died after three months in the tank. I assume he died because he was missing for some time and my nitrates skyrocketed.

Make sure you get a good clean up crew because hedgehog poop is a tad larger than the normal fish poop.

 

[ribs]

Do you guys attach it to the rock by the "foot" or the rump?
I just want it to hurry up and turn purple to match the rock.

 

[ribs]

Well, I read this from the International Hedgehog Association website
"......with an open top, it must have slippery sides that are at least 12" high and a floor space of at least l6ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ x 24ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚. A 20 gallon aquarium is ideal. It must also have good circulation and be well lit but not exposed to direct sunlight during the daytime. "

Would a MAG5 and one of those PAR38 lights Melevs Bulb be considered good lighting/circulation?

(Maybe this thread should be moved to the Nano forum.)

 

[baondayko]

I normally attach to the rump. The swimming action of its feet will typically allow you to get rid of at least one powerhead.

 

[delor]

Do they require a FW dip prior to placing in your tank? Can you keep more than one in a tank? How about if they are a mated pair?

 

[jellystomper]

Thank you ribs for letting us know about the I.H.A. website I was unaware that the male's "sheath" was so far up the "tummy" i thought it was a second nose.
As far as attaching the hog to rock, Dr. Petrov strongly urges against it. Although no formal documentation on the matter of "forced isolation" has been available, Dr. Petrov reminds us the hedgehog isn't a sessile creation. It needs the freedom and stimulus ro roam about.
Let us know what you discover.
Again, pictures would be helpful.

 

[Neurosis]

I'm sitting back following this thread thinking "WOW" jellystomper really seems serious about this!:spin2: Jellystomper, you aren't by anyway related to Puffer21 are you?

 

[ribs]

what is the recommended ratio for inches of habitrail per gallon of saltwater?