LPS melting away slowly

[iamwrasseman]

may need a dose of interceptor ?

 

[cjscott]

Did the coral RX help?

 

[bigevill1]

I did interceptor and the coral Rx dip. Neither worked. I am at a loss now.

 

[HorsePower]

I did interceptor and the coral Rx dip. Neither worked. I am at a loss now.

Man i feel you on this i had the same problen and interceptor did not work for me....

But one of these methods worked for me im just not sure which one was the cure...
Vitemin c
Prazipro
completely stopped dosing alk for a week and then lowered my daily dose from 30 to 10

 

[bigevill1]

My alk was actually kind of low when I checked it. Turned out my effluent from the CA reactor had clogged up. I just fixed that last night, but I know that wasnt the problem because lst week when I checked the alk it was fine as was the weeks before that. Always around 8.

 

[RokleM]

Did you ever get the mag kit? Where's the level at?

 

[Reef Bass]

Bummer! I was hoping the interceptor would make a difference for you.

I suspect there are unknown, or more accurately, undescribed bacteria infections at work. Dips only affect the outside of the coral and what the coral probably needs is to ingest antibiotics with its food to kill bacteria within its tissues.

With people, one doesn't take a medicated shower to fight off bacteria, one consumes antibiotics. A number of fish diseases are not curable by medicating the water, but by feeding the fish medicated food that it takes into its body.

Of course, I don't know of anyone ever trying this, but if water quality checks out and the usual external treatments fail, it seems the appropriate recourse.

 

[Reef Bass]

Absolutely check that mag level!

 

[bigevill1]

I did check mag. it was 1350. I bought a mag test kit, but had a friend come and test it before the kit got here in the mail.

 

[falconut]

Maybe I missed it, but did you test yor PO4? I had LPS tissue recede slowly until the heads either pop of or just shrivel and died. It took years until I finally found the problem to be high PO4 in the rocks built up over the years. Weekly GFO changes has taken care of the problem. I would suggest testing them, especially if you have any algae.

 

[bigevill1]

my PO4 was .66 which I know is high. I have added GFO last week (never used it before) and I am running solid carbon pellets. I have also cut back my feedings.

 

[falconut]

My PO4 was at 0.64 ppm and it is what I believe was casing my LPS to recede it's tissue. I also added WM EcoBAK pellets. But the real change came when I started changing my GFO weekly. In about 3 weeks the algae was starting to show a big change. I now have been regenerating the GFO and so far it seams to be working. You can do a search for it on RC. It will save you alot of $.

I assume you're using a reactor for your GFO. It's the best way to use it. I run about 1/3 lb in a TLF Reactor with a maxijet 400 valved back.

This problem almost made me give up this hobby. I understand how frustrating it can be. Hope this helps.

 

[bigevill1]

Yep, honestly I started trying to lower the PO4 to help get my SPS to color up. It never occured to me that my LPS might be suffering. We will see if it helps.

 

[bigevill1]

Stuff is still dying. Pretty soon I will have an all SPS tank.

 

[All Delight]

I've had a problem like that before with my chalices, acans, favias. I used tropic marin pro coral cure and sometimes it works. I've also tried coral rx and within hours my lps looked waaaaay better.

 

[bigevill1]

Well I have addressed all of these issues:

Mag levels
Phosphate levels
ammonia levels
salinity levels
light levels
flow levels
predation
alk levels
CA levels
temp
pH levels



And dipped with Coral Rx.

I will do another dip I guess.

 

[jc-reef]

Perhaps you may be low with Iodine/Iodide?....I recently started to dose Iodide (potassium iodide - non toxic form of iodine) and my LPS became very 'full' and SPS started to deepen in color....the LPS the very next day and SPS within a week. Your PO4 is high though which is not helping things....a large WC may help reduce levels initially...along with reduced feedings.

 

[iamwrasseman]

interceptor

 

[bigevill1]

I have dosed interceptor, and I do dose iodine. I have also cut my feedings weeks ago, done several waterchanges, and started using GFO to reduce PO4.

 

[CUNAReefer]

I do have pepps, but the chalices are melting uniformly around from the base, and the acans that I moved out of my display into my connected frag tank (where there are no pepps) died as well. I do not have a mag test kit, I plan on getting one, but the last time I had somebody else check it (which was addmittedly months ago) it was 1460.

I was doseing Kent's tech M without a test kit earlier this summer to try to kill off some hair algea, but the only effect I saw on any corals at the time was that some of my montis lost some color. Could the mag coming back down cause my problems?

Hi Bigevill1,

I pulled out my volumes of "The Reef Aquarium" for you.

Page 335, V. I

Tissue recession often occurs when the coral stops depositing calcum. The tissue may continue to grow, but the skeleton shows no new deposition and the tissue recedes like gums pulling away from the teeth. Often the skeleton is greenish in color, which indicates the presence of Ostreobium, an alga that may contribute to the problem.

Page 336-337, V. I

Another potential cause for tissue recession is the accumulation of phosphate in the system, or chronic additions of excessive quantities through the make-up water or other sources. Phosphate can act as a poison to the calcification process in both corals and coralline algae by interfering with their ability to deposit calcium... This cessation of calcification may cause the coral tissue to recede.

Since all of your corals are receding at a rapid pace, I would assume water params over a predator. There was also some information in V. III about low dissolved oxygen levels, but this may not be the case since you have changed water and tissue recession still occurs.

Have you kept all other variables constant in your tank (lighting, water flow, rock work, additives, etc)?

Good Luck!
James