der_wille_zur_macht
Team RC
Steve, how dare you suggest that we...
oh wait, that does sound pretty good. :lol:
oh wait, that does sound pretty good. :lol:
Steve, how dare you suggest that we...
oh wait, that does sound pretty good. :lol:
Have some buddies over some beers and talk reef aquariums! That's about as formal as I wanna get with URS.
I don't want no dues, no workshops, no backstabbing, no egos.
If something ain't broke don't fix it.
:thumbsup:Thanks for saying that and everything else Gary. It was good old days like that in Rochester and here in Buffalo that made the hobby so much fun.
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Justin...I'm not "poo pooing" anything. IMO It would be far worse for me to NOT speak up right here in this thread right now. When someone posts something that's inaccurate it bothers me just a little bit, but only for a few seconds. Like I already said, talk is cheap... and if you're posting something that's inaccurate you look foolish to those that know the real deal.
As for making the club more formal.. as somebody already suggested... it looks like the word 'formal' needs to be defined. Maybe in this case it simply means having beer, coffee or OJ together. That's your best bet around here.
Steve if you think this conversation was about to start a fight how about the pm that I got saying that since I was a store owner (I am a plumber and work for someone else don't own anything) that I have a ulterior motive. But to all the people that pm'd me saying thanks for trying to do something I appreciate it I just wish you guys would speak up in the thread more. The whole purpose was to get things moving and if nothing else has anyone notice that since this thread started there are already people looking to host mini meets? Kinda makes me think its working on some level
One thing I will say further is that it's unfortunate (when most mean well I think)- that discussions here sometimes turn ugly or are misunderstood. Then it turns to arguing or disagreements that are really a "turn off". In turn with that, it then kinda makes some people back away from involvement in more things.
Steve in no way did I mean that was you I have no clue who it is
But the point is I think we all should feel free to respectfully disagree with each other without it being perceived as fighting.
I agree.
For me that also means when an idea is challenged ,the challenger should not perceived/labeled as close minded to alternate approaches .
When folks feel comfortable enough to barinstorm freely and put out their view , experience or factual informattion without worrying about defending themselves from direct attacks or innuendo more can be accomplished and we can all learn more.
This implies that sometimes in brainstorming the information may be questionable or at least at the margin and any criticism should be directed at the information and not the individual or his or her style. Debate is not personal unless at least one of the participants chooses to make it that way often to deflect critique of an unsustainable position or to carry on from a prior agenda.
No, I don't think you have attacked me. I enjoy our discussions and hope they continue.
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