mantis vs pistol

[nitroxadvanced]

i know that mantis shrimp break glass
but can pistol shrimp do the same???? they have that big claw..


also i havent had any pest yet but if i did have a mantis in my tank how long would it take for him to start showing up...

 

[Ron Leversee]

There is no contest between a mantis and a pistol shrimp... the pistol loses.... It can't break glass either....

How long have you had the LR in your tank???

 

[nitroxadvanced]

i would never put them up against eachothr just an attention grabber... ( people wouldent know by fourm name if i ment shooting it or a pistle shrimp lol) LR IS 4 months old

 

[Ron Leversee]

You would more than likely hear a mantis or would have seen him by now... but I have heard stories that some stay hidden even up to a year??? If you don't hear clicking or see him at night with a red light you probably are not going to have one!!!!

 

[Gonodactylus]

Just as stomatopods differ in size and type of claw, so do snapping shrimp. A few large species (2.5-3 inches) are capable of breaking glass (thin). The disruptive forces generated by the cavitation that they create when striking are considerable and they can direct them forward over a body length.

Matched for body size, many snapping shrimp can more than hold their own against a stomatopod.

Roy

 

[nitroxadvanced]

so pistol shrip can break glass?

 

[nitroxadvanced]

well scratch the shrimp goby and pistle shrimp off my list lol

 

[Ron Leversee]

You shouldn't worry about getting a pistol shrimp with your gobby... It isn't going to break your glass unless your glass tank is extremely thin.... Been doing this for nearly 15 yrs and never heard of a normal sized!!! pistol shrimp breaking someone's tank glass!!! I suppose it is possible?!?!?!?! But don't think you have to worry!!!

 

[nitroxadvanced]

can it weaking it tho with repeated blows( my tank is 55 gallon)

what is a good goby/ shrimp pair

 

[nitroxadvanced]

iv heardof pistol shrimp killing fish and breaking glass so yeah of course im worried

 

[Ron Leversee]

I guess if you are worried don't get one!!!

I have had them for years and everyone that I know that has had them haven't had glass broken from them.....
A yellow watchman gobby and pistol are good companions.... Mine play all day!!!!

 

[nitroxadvanced]

has yours ever attempted to hit the glass

how loud is the snap

 

[Ron Leversee]

No they don't target the glass... They snap there claws...click, click.... Sorta sounds like snapping your fingers together... They run around like the shrimp I keep in the tank... Fun to watch with the relationship it has with it's gobby!!!

 

[traveller7]

This is an interesting read which provides some pictures for Dr. Roy's previous statement. Check it out:

http://fdweb.tn.utwente.nl/shrimp/physics.html

 

[c. dawg]

Ron Leversee - does your pistol shrimp ever hurt another fish?

 

[Ron Leversee]

Traveller7 Very good read...

It is capable of hurting fish but my fish are large enough and stay away from the shrimp...

Again they aren't for everyone but I have never had any real problems with mine in a very active reef environment!!

 

[Gonodactylus]

I certainly didn't mean to imply that all snapping shrimp could break glass. Most can't, cut a few of the very large species that reach 3 + inches can deliver a good crack. I've seen them kill similar sized mantis shrimp and I've had them crack photographic tanks (made from single glazing).

Roy

 

[Ron Leversee]

I bet that is right!!! That is a large pistol shrimp... I wouldn't want to get my hands near him!!!

At that size I could see them handling most mantis in their size range....

 

[nitroxadvanced]

what size fish are ok to go with a 2 inch shrimp???????


Also is 2 inches one of te ones to that can danmage glass

 

[nitroxadvanced]

AFTER reading that arical the shrimp dosent sound very safe lol