Marine velvet - near wipeout

[karimwassef]

Here's my upgraded QT
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[CoralsAddiction]

You should remove live rock because it will absorb your copper medication.

 

[karimwassef]

My Fluval canister has GAC in it. Should I remove it?

 

[karimwassef]

It's not real LR. It's 2" PVC covered with a cosmetic layer of concrete and cloth (like a thin cast).

 

[karimwassef]

My blog is at here. There are quite a few entries you might find useful, basically anything on fish diseases and parasites.

I found your blogs but you have 8 pages of them. All good stuff. Which one is the QT one?

 

[jimmy140]

I'm sorry to take this off topic, but that is the best looking rock work I have ever seen!! I love your scape. You must share at a later time how you created that. Sorry about your fish. I'm a newb. I can't help you.

 

[karimwassef]

Thanks. Here's by clothcrete build -
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2391044&page=13

And here's my tank build -
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2229274&page=21

 

[snorvich]

I found your blogs but you have 8 pages of them. All good stuff. Which one is the QT one?

This one.

 

[karimwassef]

That's a lot of work. What do you do for a large order of fish like 20 at a time?

I would pay extra for a LFS to do that for me.

 

[firemountain]

TTM plus a minimum of 3 weeks is preferred, but 4 would be better. You won't see issues before then.

Thanks Steve.

 

[snorvich]

Thanks Steve.

Would the TTM have eradicated a mild case of velvet for the OP, if done when he first acquired the fish.

No, it would have no effect on velvet.

 

[snorvich]

That's a lot of work. What do you do for a large order of fish like 20 at a time?

I would never order 20 fish at a time. The odds of that working out are slim and none. Even when I was first starting out, I would never order more than one fish unless I was getting a group, e.g. anthias. As far as the amount of work, given an embedded base of fish costing a lot of money, time, and effort, I would not want to put them at risk.

I would pay extra for a LFS to do that for me.

None could do so effectively, and if they created the ability to do so, fish would cost twice as much if not more.

 

[firemountain]

I know sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. Here is a video clip of o guy talking abut velvet.

http://youtu.be/CLv0AamLURg

Forward to like 7:09 in the video to see his blue tang with velvet.

Just trying to help out.

 

[Nuccio250]

Are you sure it is velvet???

 

[karimwassef]

In a 600g tank, adding fish slowly created unusual aggression. I don't know why but the few 4 fish would seek out the single new fish and kill it.

Introducing groups eliminated the aggression. My video shows this.

Now I need a decent non-medicated source. I think the only proof I'll accept is coral kept in the same LFS tank.

 

[karimwassef]

The female died today

 

[CoralsAddiction]

The female died today

Sorry you lost her

 

[snorvich]

In a 600g tank, adding fish slowly created unusual aggression. I don't know why but the few 4 fish would seek out the single new fish and kill it.

depends on order added and which species. Sure if you put in highly territorial fish first, they will not be pleased with additions. Add the least aggressive first, most aggressive last.

Introducing groups eliminated the aggression. My video shows this.

Now I need a decent non-medicated source.

And a good quarantine protocol.

I think the only proof I'll accept is coral kept in the same LFS tank.

 

[snorvich]

In a 600g tank, adding fish slowly created unusual aggression. I don't know why but the few 4 fish would seek out the single new fish and kill it.

Introducing groups eliminated the aggression. My video shows this.

Now I need a decent non-medicated source. I think the only proof I'll accept is coral kept in the same LFS tank.

If you are starting with tangs, that is why you have territorial issues. Tangs should be the last fish added for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is aggression and territorial behavior. By the way, chromis are highly susceptible to uronema marinum so without a rigorous quarantine protocol, you are taking a large risk. Of course chromis will winnow down to one or at most two over time.

 

[snorvich]

When your fish initially became sick, what were the visual symptoms?