Millepora Polyp Extension
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reefyourself
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reefyourself
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The 3 pictures of the colony dont even look like a millepora. It looks like an acropora convexa! but they came off of colonies that are millie. Strange it is!
Also the single acro mille came off a huge...and when i mean huge almost 1 foot mille (purplish blue).
Also the single acro mille came off a huge...and when i mean huge almost 1 foot mille (purplish blue).
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reefyourself
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So you are saying I either have Red Planaria or AEFW? I mean, I noticed a couple of flatworms on my glass 2-3 days ago and i treated them with flatworm exit. I saw them just letting go of the glass and being taken into the current. As for AEFW...I have 3 smooth skinned acros and I dont see any bite marks...
theronsta
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Whenever I use flatworm Exit I use twice what it says for recommended dose. It never seems to bother my tank as I have a string skimmer and do a water change no longer than 6 hours after dosing.
You should also inspect for eggs. If you saw 3 you have eggs and If you dont get them youll be treating flatworm exit every two weeks :/
if its not a pest it is flow. I have two frags of the same millepora and the one that is in good flow has amazing PE and has doubled in growth while the other in not so much flow isnt doing much but looking like a really bright green acro!
heres an example.
This is mine
They get to almost 1/4" long sometimes
You should also inspect for eggs. If you saw 3 you have eggs and If you dont get them youll be treating flatworm exit every two weeks :/
if its not a pest it is flow. I have two frags of the same millepora and the one that is in good flow has amazing PE and has doubled in growth while the other in not so much flow isnt doing much but looking like a really bright green acro!
heres an example.
This is mine
They get to almost 1/4" long sometimes
reefyourself
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What ill do is...since im not able to move the coral anymore, ill make a frag out of the colony and put it in the highest flow area of my tank and see how it goes in the next couple of weeks. Its weird tho cause my milles are the only corals that dont have nice vibrant colors....its very strange....could it be im missing an important elemement?
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tchndie
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how close to the light are they placed? What type of light do you use? I have several millies and they are all 6 to 8 inch under my light with high flow an they are growing like crazy with great polyp extension and colour. I dose 2 part, trace elements, iodine, amino acids on a regular basis! Keep us posted and hope we helped you out a bit!
Reef Bass
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Not saying you for sure have pests. Just when other likely causes of reduced polyp extension have been examined, it's worth discussing.
Early in the aefw infection process not all acros are infected. I had a 12"+ pink millepora which used to be super pink and very furry and then displayed reduced polyp extension and became pale. It was being consumed by aefw.
Try blowing current on it with a turkey baster or handheld power head and see if aefw fly off.
Flatworm Exit is effective against planaria, but not against aefw.
Redbugs and red planaria are not the same. Red planaria look similar to flatworms, in terms of being flat and squishy. Redbugs are little arthropods, sort of coral fleas or ticks. They come in colors besides red though red head with a yellow body are the ones I've seen most. They're very small and hard to see. I usually notice them when I'm doing macro closeups of a coral. Then they're more obvious. Redbugs also move quickly more than flatworms.
I hope you don't have any pests and your milli soon returns to the fur beast it should be.
Early in the aefw infection process not all acros are infected. I had a 12"+ pink millepora which used to be super pink and very furry and then displayed reduced polyp extension and became pale. It was being consumed by aefw.
Try blowing current on it with a turkey baster or handheld power head and see if aefw fly off.
Flatworm Exit is effective against planaria, but not against aefw.
Redbugs and red planaria are not the same. Red planaria look similar to flatworms, in terms of being flat and squishy. Redbugs are little arthropods, sort of coral fleas or ticks. They come in colors besides red though red head with a yellow body are the ones I've seen most. They're very small and hard to see. I usually notice them when I'm doing macro closeups of a coral. Then they're more obvious. Redbugs also move quickly more than flatworms.
I hope you don't have any pests and your milli soon returns to the fur beast it should be.
deeznutz1
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There's no way that there is a milli. Millis don't have flower shaped polyps. More of a polyp with a long single hair coming through the middle. This is what make the millis look so shaggy.
Get a pic of the mother colony and post it for us to see. It it not even be pa Mille.
Dan
Get a pic of the mother colony and post it for us to see. It it not even be pa Mille.
Dan
reefyourself
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Its impossible i saw the owner cut the pieces off the colony. This is why i started this thread. Thats what i was saying they should be really shaggy.
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One was fragged off a pink milli other was from a grape milli
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acroholicreefer
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I use to have a similar issue when I was running two mp 40's in my 120g. Since then I changed the pumps out with five koralias 4's and the polyp extension got much better on the milli.
Akrite
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Your details of your tank are very vague. What size is your tank (gallons, LxWxH)? What type of lights are you using (LED, T5's, MH)? How far off the water? How much flow do you have? What type of powerheads? How many fish do you have and what kind?
All these details are important in order to help you. I have a 120G 4x2x2 with 5 variaties of millies and they loved bright light and flow. My setup included 2 vortech mp40w and ATI 8x54w T5's 6 inches from the water and my milies base was 6-8 inches from the surface. The closer my milies were to the mp40w the hairier they were and the taller they got the bright their colors. I upgraded to a 250G 5x3x30in with the same light and same 2 mp40w and things are not the same. I still have PE but not like it was and my pink milli has no PE only skeleton. With my tank being larger my millies are now at least 12 inches from the waters surface an their color isn't as intense.
I'm trying to show you how important it is too have the right amount of light and flow for the size tank that you have so please give more detailed information about you setup.
All these details are important in order to help you. I have a 120G 4x2x2 with 5 variaties of millies and they loved bright light and flow. My setup included 2 vortech mp40w and ATI 8x54w T5's 6 inches from the water and my milies base was 6-8 inches from the surface. The closer my milies were to the mp40w the hairier they were and the taller they got the bright their colors. I upgraded to a 250G 5x3x30in with the same light and same 2 mp40w and things are not the same. I still have PE but not like it was and my pink milli has no PE only skeleton. With my tank being larger my millies are now at least 12 inches from the waters surface an their color isn't as intense.
I'm trying to show you how important it is too have the right amount of light and flow for the size tank that you have so please give more detailed information about you setup.
reefyourself
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Ok here it goes
Tank: 20 gallon (24L x 12w x 16h)
Total System Volume: 25 gallon (with sump)
Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit: 1MH (150watt 20K - Fitted with icecap balast), 4xT5 (2 actinics, 2 blues)
Lighting Height: 12 inches from water surface
Water movement: Return pump + MP20 (set at maximum)
Bio Load: 3 fish (~2 inches each)
Feeding: Feed fish twice a day + add marine snow
Protein Skimmer: Octopus NWB150 (on for 8hrs each day off for 16)
Carbon: 2 1/2 teaspoons in a mesh bag (gets changed every 2 weeks)
Waterchange: 1x every 2 weeks (1.5 gallons)
Dosing Alk/Cal Via: Profilux doser (40ml/40ml Randy's recipe tweaked to balling method)
Parameters:
Salinity: 1.0264 (35ppt)
Alkalinity: 2.5meq/L (Salifert)
Calcium:415ppm (Salifert)
Magnesium: 1290ppm (Salifert)
PO4: 0.00 (Hanna Checker)
NO3: 0.00 (Seachem Nitrate test)
Millies are sitting both at 6 inches from water level.
Currently started up Brightwells NeoZeo method due to algae problems. Hair algae and some type of red algae just keeps growing even though PO4 and NO3 = ~0.
Dosage for Neo Zeo daily (Right now started second week of method)
Media so far: Total 100g
Microbacter7: 16 drops
Biofuel: 0 drops (will start in week 3 with 6 drops)
Replenish: 2 drops
Restor: 5 drops
Koralle-VM: 5 drops
Koralle Color: 5 drops
Coral Amino: 5 drops
Potassion: 10 drops
Reef Iodide: 10 drops
Reef Strontium: 10 drops
Think thats it? Let me know if you need any information
Tank: 20 gallon (24L x 12w x 16h)
Total System Volume: 25 gallon (with sump)
Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit: 1MH (150watt 20K - Fitted with icecap balast), 4xT5 (2 actinics, 2 blues)
Lighting Height: 12 inches from water surface
Water movement: Return pump + MP20 (set at maximum)
Bio Load: 3 fish (~2 inches each)
Feeding: Feed fish twice a day + add marine snow
Protein Skimmer: Octopus NWB150 (on for 8hrs each day off for 16)
Carbon: 2 1/2 teaspoons in a mesh bag (gets changed every 2 weeks)
Waterchange: 1x every 2 weeks (1.5 gallons)
Dosing Alk/Cal Via: Profilux doser (40ml/40ml Randy's recipe tweaked to balling method)
Parameters:
Salinity: 1.0264 (35ppt)
Alkalinity: 2.5meq/L (Salifert)
Calcium:415ppm (Salifert)
Magnesium: 1290ppm (Salifert)
PO4: 0.00 (Hanna Checker)
NO3: 0.00 (Seachem Nitrate test)
Millies are sitting both at 6 inches from water level.
Currently started up Brightwells NeoZeo method due to algae problems. Hair algae and some type of red algae just keeps growing even though PO4 and NO3 = ~0.
Dosage for Neo Zeo daily (Right now started second week of method)
Media so far: Total 100g
Microbacter7: 16 drops
Biofuel: 0 drops (will start in week 3 with 6 drops)
Replenish: 2 drops
Restor: 5 drops
Koralle-VM: 5 drops
Koralle Color: 5 drops
Coral Amino: 5 drops
Potassion: 10 drops
Reef Iodide: 10 drops
Reef Strontium: 10 drops
Think thats it? Let me know if you need any information
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reefyourself
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Oh... and stock ballast on MH has been changed to an Icecap one.
Another thing, My PH runs between 7.9-8.2 + minimal amount of sand in aquarium (I would say less than 4 cups of sand)
Another thing, My PH runs between 7.9-8.2 + minimal amount of sand in aquarium (I would say less than 4 cups of sand)
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