amcarrig
Allons-y!
I should stop worrying and just enjoy things for another 6 months.
I lol'd.
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I lol'd.
der_wille_zur_macht
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Me too.
So, no one is impressed by my gorgonian's amazing growth rate? I even put it in bold.
So, no one is impressed by my gorgonian's amazing growth rate? I even put it in bold.
Every time I see one of you coastal folk post comments like this I feel like writhing on the ground. SOME DAY I am going to live near an ocean. I hope you know how lucky you are.
Just make sure the ocean isn't surrounded by "protected coastline schmoastline"
:lol:
Just kidding, Laguna Beach City Council. I'm all about protecting those beautiful anemones that would look great in my fish tank.
der_wille_zur_macht
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I really wish I could find it, but a few months ago I read a study on branching in this genus. Researchers were trying to figure out how it decided to branch vs. grow existing branches longer. They basically found that for a given overall colony mass, there was a pre-programmed most-desirable number of primary branches. If they trimmed colonies shorter they'd just grow taller, but if they removed primary branches, they'd concentrate on regrowing those primary branches and not grow existing branches much taller.
With this individual, I cut the top 3 inches or so off two of the primary branches, which represented maybe 20% of the length of those primary branches (each frag had maybe 2 - 4 secondary branches). These primary branches are clearly regrowing, the new branch tissue is thinner than the old and the wound is still obvious so it's really easy to measure the new growth. What I wish I had done was measure length of the branches I did not cut, so I could determine their growth rate compared to the trimmed branches.
On a somewhat related note, I was recently re-reading Eric Borneman's book on corals and in the description of Acropora, he talks about growth of axial coralites vs "other" growth in the colony. I might be remembering this wrong but iirc, he suggests that sprouting new axial coralites is "expensive" for corals and is a good indicator of the colony's health. Well, I have 4 Acro frags that have been in the tank for more than a month or two. One of them looks dead, one looks healthy but hasn't changed much at all in terms of growth, and the remaining two are a total explosion of new axial coralites and growth. So I'll take that as a good sign, for those two species at least.
I'll try to get some photos of them in my next "shoot."
amcarrig
Allons-y!
You are the coolest nerd that I know DWIZM
It's been a long while since I've found this topic interesting but you have definitely piqued my interest again. Not enough to set up another tank, mind you, but enough to want to start reading about how corals "work" again. Now, if I could only find the time :lol:
It's been a long while since I've found this topic interesting but you have definitely piqued my interest again. Not enough to set up another tank, mind you, but enough to want to start reading about how corals "work" again. Now, if I could only find the time :lol:
You are the coolest nerd that I know DWIZM
It's been a long while since I've found this topic interesting but you have definitely piqued my interest again. Not enough to set up another tank, mind you, but enough to want to start reading about how corals "work" again. Now, if I could only find the time :lol:
Do it between bites.
Sometimes the lounge hunts you down.
der_wille_zur_macht
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I hope the implication of this sinks in for people reading it:
I don't think I explained it clearly, but the way growth happened, in terms of what parts of the coral grew or how many branches it grew were not dependent on conditions in the environment (other than orientation of the growth). It's very much opposite how other types of corals typically work - i.e., the acros in my tank are branching out directly in response to the flow and lighting they're placed in, but the gorg is growing according to some preset design. At least, that's my take on it.
What's that? You want to set up another tank? DO IT DO IT DO IT!
I don't think I explained it clearly, but the way growth happened, in terms of what parts of the coral grew or how many branches it grew were not dependent on conditions in the environment (other than orientation of the growth). It's very much opposite how other types of corals typically work - i.e., the acros in my tank are branching out directly in response to the flow and lighting they're placed in, but the gorg is growing according to some preset design. At least, that's my take on it.
What's that? You want to set up another tank? DO IT DO IT DO IT!
kcress
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Every time I see one of you coastal folk post comments like this I feel like writhing on the ground. SOME DAY I am going to live near an ocean. I hope you know how lucky you are.
I do realize.
Here in Santa Cruz we have "West Cliff Drive" which I believe is the only place where there is a walkway way 2 miles long that looks 50 feet down on a 100ft wide beach and lots of tide pools. Monterey National Marine Sanctuary.
Here's a picture I took from West Cliff:
Note the surfers and the fishing boat. You can't see the seagull in the sun in this puny size picture.
I'll go check those out. Thanks.
!!! Then I agree. Who cares if your scrubber is all green and thick. Doesn't appear it has anything to eat.
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der_wille_zur_macht
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I'm serious on the fat fish. I half expect to see the blenny rolling around in one of those fat-people motorized scooters one day.
And I'm also seriously jealous of that view. Dang.
I don't think I'd accomplish anything in life if I lived near there, except sitting on the beach an staring into the ocean.
Back to the tank. Within the next 6 months I plan on adding an anemone. I've kept lots of anemones in previous tanks (too many BTAs to count, a few LTAs, a haddoni) but I've never been 100% totally satisfied that I had the "right" species. I want something big and majestic, but also something that won't be prone to wandering rockwork AND won't be prone to eating fish. The haddoni fits the "doesn't wander the rocks) criteria but definitely not the "doesn't eat fish" criteria. BTAs don't generally eat fish IME but they wander and split too much to be manageable in a tank this size. When I had BTAs in my 125, I'd find little babies under every nook every time I did work in the tank, it's amazing that corals survived given how many BTAs there were crawling around.
Anyone have ideas? Bonus points if it's a common host for tomato-complex clowns...
And I'm also seriously jealous of that view. Dang.
I don't think I'd accomplish anything in life if I lived near there, except sitting on the beach an staring into the ocean.Back to the tank. Within the next 6 months I plan on adding an anemone. I've kept lots of anemones in previous tanks (too many BTAs to count, a few LTAs, a haddoni) but I've never been 100% totally satisfied that I had the "right" species. I want something big and majestic, but also something that won't be prone to wandering rockwork AND won't be prone to eating fish. The haddoni fits the "doesn't wander the rocks) criteria but definitely not the "doesn't eat fish" criteria. BTAs don't generally eat fish IME but they wander and split too much to be manageable in a tank this size. When I had BTAs in my 125, I'd find little babies under every nook every time I did work in the tank, it's amazing that corals survived given how many BTAs there were crawling around.
Anyone have ideas? Bonus points if it's a common host for tomato-complex clowns...
der_wille_zur_macht
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Can I secretly admit that I had ritteri in mind, and was hoping that it would get suggested as a confirmation of my plans?
der_wille_zur_macht
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It has NOTHING to do with the fact that my favorite LFS just posted on their facebook page that they got in a shipment containing a ritteri...
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Beautiful Nems, go for it. Nothing really compares to the look of an anemone swaying in the current.
amcarrig
Allons-y!
It has NOTHING to do with the fact that my favorite LFS just posted on their facebook page that they got in a shipment containing a ritteri...
Of course it doesn't. Pure coincidence
I wish I could figure out what the heck I did with the picture of my friend's 300 gallon plywood tank that I took when I went to Australia to visit him and his wife. This tank was outstanding and full of native animals that he was able to (legally) obtain from local collectors that he often went on collection trips with. I'm not sure that's even legal anymore. His ritteri anemones were the centerpieces of his tank and they were outstanding.
der_wille_zur_macht
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I totally agree. My first real forays into reefkeeping were mostly driven by wanting anemones. I can remember wondering why anyone would want boring old corals when they could have a tank stuffed full of anemones.
Of course it doesn't. Pure coincidence
I wish I could figure out what the heck I did with the picture of my friend's 300 gallon plywood tank that I took when I went to Australia to visit him and his wife. This tank was outstanding and full of native animals that he was able to (legally) obtain from local collectors that he often went on collection trips with. I'm not sure that's even legal anymore. His ritteri anemones were the centerpieces of his tank and they were outstanding.
Okay, you people REALLY have to stop talking about how awesome it is to live near the ocean or else I'm gonna leave this thread and NEVER COME BACK!!!
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