My DIY Rock/Foam Reef

Wow Kannin your tank has come a long way since I last posted.Will be nice to see what direction the tank goes now that you have pretty much gotten pass the cyano battle.

Keep up the great work.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12836145#post12836145 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Giga
Ok now I have a question would epoxy be the safest bet then to cover the foam?

I think that the epoxies and vinylesters would be the best but, polyesters are certainly safe also.

The most important regard to limiting toxicity in the tank with all of them is giving plenty of cure time.
 
Hey Fury - any idea where to get "dairy-grade" vinylesters?

I can't find it with google. Thanks for all the input everyone.
 
Hi Ocean,
Here are two suppliers which should have it. Although, they may have it listed under a different "grade name." It has been several years since I have used it.

Both of these sources are good for epoxies, polyesters, gelcoats, glass cloth, supplies, etc. also. Polygard is the best when ordering pails and drums of material. Fiberglass Coatings for smaller quantities.

They both also carry the expandable urethane foam in cans which you mix yourself also. .. 2lb to 15 lb densities.

Fiberglass Coatings -- St. Pete, FL www.fgci.com
Polygard -- Tampa, FL www.polygard.com

Good luck with your project!
 
Hey I just found this 15 minute midcure epoxy from bob and smith industries looks jsut like what you used. I pretty stoked. Is the 15 minute different from the 20 minute?
 
I thought the best (least toxic) would be pond foam (already made for freshwater fish) with vinyl ester resin to hold the sand/crushed coral?

Good to know there are different substances that can work; I'm just probably going to err on the side of paranoid

I was glad to read a month of curing helps ensure non-toxicity in foam/resin rocks. :)

This is such a fantastic new method - great thread.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12866206#post12866206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Giga
Hey I just found this 15 minute midcure epoxy from bob and smith industries looks jsut like what you used. I pretty stoked. Is the 15 minute different from the 20 minute?

5 minutes difference in dry time. The one set of bottles was good enough for my entire project. And, the bottles are marked so that you can easily mix equal amounts. I used about 1/8 of the product at a time. That would cover a foot or so which took about tem minutes. Then I would sprinkle the sand on it and go make another batch.
 
looks like everyone is on the path to a foam reef habitat...glad mines done and wet now...just get to sit back and watch it
 
I also am a victim of mis-identifying those damn majanoes. keep feeding them and watched em take over the tank. should have realized that hardly anything desirable grows that fast.

broke the tank down, and am going to do a foam rock/background wall.

heres a pic of my rock/foam wall in a little 5-g on the 1st day with water.

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not a great pic, but this was made by laying the tank on its back, directly spaying the foam on the back wall, they pressing rocks and sand/course gravel into the foam.
as the foam expanded i would press more and more sand into it, creating a very solid wall. you can also mold the background better once you get a slurry of substrate and foam going. when dried hardly any foam was exposed, and it felt very solid and was very porous. this nano ran for about a year with no problems, livestock was fine and no disintegration of the foam.

the plan for my big foam background would be the same-no epoxy, just lots of substrate pressed into the wet foam, except obviously built it outside the tank first.

though i would post this since i saw several people ask the question about no epoxy, and applying sand to the wet foam.

will post some pics after some progress is made.
 
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